726:. Consider: the corresponding Chinese, Cantonese and Classical Chinese pages of this article are all titled "後漢" or "Later Han" without any parentheses. Looking at some other language versions, the French, Croatian, Norwegian, Finnish, Vietnamese, Ukrainian, Thai versions all managed to call this period "Later Han Dynasty" without parentheses, why can't English Wiki do the same? (It's quite conceivable that some of the other language versions that do use parentheses in their titles followed English Knowledge.) Another thing to consider is that prefixes like "Later", "Eastern", "Western", "Northern" and "Southern" are already specific disambiguation phrases added by later historians to separate the Han's apart. Why is a second level of disambiguation necessary? The
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Eastern Han article would still be one click away. So it would be no harder to get to than it is currently through the DAB. This is all covered in
450:: This is certainly not the primary topic for "Later Han"; if there is one, it's the Eastern Han. It's not sufficient that that article already has an unambiguous title; the issue is that someone saying "Later Han dynasty" is much more likely to be talking about the Eastern Han.
416:: Later Han is a common term to refer to the Eastern Han in western literature, and people are more likely to be looking for the more prominent Han dynasty than a short-lived interregnum state. I also oppose the subtle change from "dynasty" to "Dynasty" with a capital D.
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All that means is that "Later Han" should redirect to "Eastern Han", and that a hatnote should appear on that article. It does not mean that the Five
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