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It should be noted that this is a short term release of energy. Keep in mind that basalt flood eruptions could release more energy as well. My take is that the Deccan traps and the Columbia River flood basalt eruptions would have released much more energy, perhaps even more than the Chicxulub impact,
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Someone has stated that a new system is needed. I agree because what have clearly been defined as the largest eruptions in the earth's history are being rejected by the VEI system.If a system that judged both kinds of eruptions existed then we could clearly see which are the largest eruptions and
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Chicxulub may have released 4Ă—1023 joules of energy, equivalent to 100,000,000 megatons of TNT on impact. The Tsar Bomba, was 50 megatons. The Chicxulub impact was 2 million times more powerful. La Garita, at approximately 1021 joules, was less powerful.
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The article makes a comparison between the largest nuclear bomb ever detonated, and this eruption, but uses completely incompatible units for comparison. This should either be removed, or the units converted to something that makes sense.
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I second this comment; there have been impacts larger than the Chicxulub. The Vredefort and Sudbury impacts may be the only ones with known craters, but there must have been many more during the Late Heavy Bombardment.
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VEI measures eruption sizes based on volume of magma erupted in cubic km and eruption column height. Magnitude, as used in the article by Mason et al, measures eruption size based on mass of magma erupted in kilograms.
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The Tsar Bomba, had a yield of 50 megatons; La Garita was approximately 100,000 times more powerful. It is possibly the most energetic event on Earth since the Chicxulub impact, which was 50 times more powerful.
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I'm inclined to agree with you. It might be better to compare with other volcanic events. One possibility is Savino & Jones ("Supervolcano: The Catastrophic Event That Changed the Course of Human History"
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does it state that the FC Tuff had a high volume as this. In fact, it's still stated as 5,000 cubic km in that article. Because the erupted volume is under 10,000 cubic km, it is still a VEI-8 eruption
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The entire discussion about the size of the eruption vs the Tsar Bomba is un-cited, and probably incorrect given the whole claim. This needs to be fixed with proper citations or deleted.
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Regarding the phrase "It is possibly only the second most energetic event to have ocurred on Earth besides the Chicxulub impact", what about the impact that formed the moon? Or the
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Someone has stated that the Fish Canyon Tuff from La Garita Caldera was a VEI-9 eruption and that the volume was 18,000 cubic km. Both are inaccurate. Nowhere in the article
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but that energy would have been released over a longer time. And I imagine that there's eveb more energy involved in the acceleration of a major continental plate. --
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But compare the number of joules given: 10 to the 21 joules and 4 * 10 to the 23 joules; Chicxulub was 400 times more powerful than La Garita, not 50.
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The persons who wrote about the energy produced by the Chicxulub impact and the La Garita eruption should compare notes. Their math disagrees.
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impact? The phrase should be modified to read "It is probably the most energetic event to have ocurred on Earth since the Chicxulub impact."
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That was me. Sorry, I misread the Mason et al article. Thanks for picking this up. I see most of related edits I made (to
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I felt like pointing out the inconsistencies, though I realize there are many uncertainties in all this data. Thanks.
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1) The Paraná and Etendeka traps had greater levels of volcanism than that at La Garita. See wiki article "
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Surely there is a simple map or diagram of the caldera that could be included in the article?
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it is important to note that VEI and magnitude measure eruption sizes differently.
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Good amendment. Very nice article too, especially as it is freely accessible.
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Scott E. Bryan (2010). "The largest volcanic eruptions on Earth".
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2) The La Garita activity did not take place "in human history".
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The Siberian Traps is the largest known eruption on Earth.
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