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Imrent my flat over a shop pet corner the owner is wayne garside second rate pluumber and cheap maintenance on his 10 houses he got 5 vans one car 10 dogs took old pensioner not related at all he seen that he got 3 pension. My point is i lived in thos flat for 17 years i seen things come and go the
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