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The split between "Activism and exile" and "Return to El Salvador" is a bit arbitrary because the first paragraph of the latter is closely connected to the last paragraph of the former. I'd recommend moving these to the previous section and renaming "Return to El Salvador" to "Later life".
544:- the earliest mention of him in exile in the US is 1982. I presume, but cannot verify, that he left nearly immediately after the death of Viera and did not return at all until 1989. As I can't verify the earlier date, though, I haven't included it in the article. 785:
For one thing, it's mostly but not completely chronological, e.g. the first paragraph mentions a strike in 1980 but the next paragraphs talks about the start of the civil war the year before. I understand if the sources don't have dates for
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Not specifically. He graduated from Fishburne Military School in VA for high school, and attended a "Florida agricultural college." No other source gives further information, as best as I can recall.
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I have made a series of changes / re-organizations that I believe address all the concerns above. It's a definite improvement, so thank you for the suggestions!
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I'm sure you know better than I do about this, but isn't the proper way to refer to him "Gómez Vides" rather than just "Gómez"? e.g., this is how
424:— Recommend removing this as the lead already states his year of death, and the fact that he died of a heart attack is not especially noteworthy. 831:, it would be better to mention his children in the previous paragraph about his marriages. I don't think you need to mention his grandchildren. 392:, but he is certainly more notable for the latter than the former, and in fact the body only obliquely mentions his coffee farming activities. 99: 813:) as there are already many quotes from people about Gómez in this article. Especially if you can cite it to a RS rather than his brother. 612:
was survived by two daughters from his first marriage, Margarita Gómez Zimmerman and Teresa Gómez Koudjeti, as well as four grandchildren
530:- neither source says when, specifically. I also wanted to know and spent some time looking, but the information was not forthcoming. 652:
shows "Violation Possible" at 62.1%. This is largely on account of two long quotes, which I recommended trimming or removing above.
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I believe I have addressed all of your comments. Let me know what further changes need to be made, and thank you for the review!
696:- I think I understood what you were saying, but I'm no good with reference formatting. Let me know if I didn't actually fix it! 816:
I recommend removing Walker's quote entirely; it's unusual to have a random praiseful quote in a biographical article like this.
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Just a few remaining things. The one blockquote remains not well-integrated; I recommend introducing it with
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Overall, the article is close to meeting the GA criteria. Putting on hold while comments are addressed.
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If I've understood your comment correctly, I've rephrased each of these sentences to avoid the issue.
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I don't think you need to mention that December 31 is New Year's Eve as it is a fixed-date holiday.
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Hello, I will be reviewing this article shortly. Sorry that you had to wait four months for this.
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Some of these laudatory quotes are a borderline neutrality issue. I'd recommend trimming them.
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Gómez testified before the US Senate subcommittee on Inter-American affairs on March 11, 1981:
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He was married twice, to Eugenia B. Gómez and Teresa Arene–both marriages ended in divorce
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Don't need a reference for date of death in the lead as it is already cited in the body.
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Too many participles used as adverbial phrases, most of which should be rephrased, e.g.
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While in exile, Gómez developed close relationships with American political figures
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I have fixed both these issues. The block quote should be better integrated now.
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or something like that, instead of having a separate caption. In the lead,
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Gómez was viewed with suspicion by some elements of both the left and right
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Whitfield's quote is fairly short and does not need to be a blockquote.
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Gómez eventually became the general manager and deputy director of ISTA
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The "Activism and exile" sections needs a bit of reorganization.
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Gómez attended... an undergraduate college in the United States
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Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the
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Developing close relationships with American political figures
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There is one image, and it is relevant and freely licensed.
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Thanks for the fixes. I've left a few more comments here.
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made further fixes along the lines suggested above. :)
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the blockquote. Would you prefer I remove it entirely?
663:The references to Forché's book need page numbers. 506:an expert on the nature of the Salvadoran military 803:but it is not well-integrated into the section. 620:- let me know if it looks good now in context. 8: 493:...building an extensive network of contacts 478:Described by scholar Thomas Anderson as... 473:Described by historian Robert Wesson as... 388:The lead (and infobox) describes him as a 30: 707:for the NYT. Not required for GA though. 585:Again, blockquote is probably too much. 626:Forché expressed a similar sentiment... 61: 33: 914: 910: 906: 824: 810: 806: 793: 769: 625: 611: 596: 554: 549:Not strictly required for GA, but per 536:Gómez subsequently spent time in exile 535: 521: 509: 505: 492: 487: 482: 477: 472: 451: 421: 407: 403: 389: 772:should also be removed from infobox. 573:- let me know if I should go further. 483:Advocating for land redistribution... 7: 510:an expert on the Salvadoran military 488:A cousin of poet Claribel Alegría... 390:coffee farmer and political activist 178: 949:Great, happy to pass this article. 628:— This sentence needs a reference. 24: 799:I don't object to the blockquote 454:— Does the source say which one? 422:He died in 2009 of a heart attack 807:In 2019, Gómez was remembered... 398:, adjusted sentence accordingly. 354: 336: 326: 313: 300: 287: 277: 259: 245: 231: 217: 204: 191: 557:should come before the period. 555:accused of being a communist... 553:the terminal quotation mark of 1: 688:Template:Cite news#Publisher 337: 327: 314: 301: 288: 278: 272: 260: 246: 232: 218: 205: 192: 170: 674:In the citation templates, 171: 981: 959:11:20, 26 March 2022 (UTC) 945:01:18, 26 March 2022 (UTC) 927:19:26, 25 March 2022 (UTC) 901:18:01, 25 March 2022 (UTC) 879:17:28, 25 March 2022 (UTC) 758:23:09, 24 March 2022 (UTC) 736:21:44, 24 March 2022 (UTC) 717:19:27, 25 March 2022 (UTC) 408:Born into a wealthy family 161:20:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC) 606:- went with a semicolon. 699:I think you should use 618:Shortened and broadened 416:, changed as suggested. 18:Talk:Leonel Gómez Vides 913:is awkward. 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