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Oakley has recently been making special edition LS sunglasses. But while Oakley is a pretty major company to collaborate with, I'm not sure if the programs worth noting because, where I live, about 1 in 20 random people on any day will have Oakes on, and I have yet to see a pair of these. I'd buy
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International Cyclists Union. They, and LA's companions and contemporaries, are far better qualified than us to judge him, and they say he is a doper. As for notoriety, he has certainly achieved enough to last more than a lifetime. He's not Jack the Ripper, no; but as a sportsperson, and an
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