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Limp Bizkit is piece of shit compared to bands like Megadeath, Children of Bodom, Dream Theater, to name a few. There are millions of shredders across the globe who play billions of times better than Limp Bizkit yet they can't get the fame they deserve while these fucking nu metal losers like Limp Bizkit feeding your ears this garbage whitenoise they call music and make millions on selling their retarded crapcore records. And all you guys who maintain this site about limp bizkit have no tste in music and you must be ashamed of yourselves. I feel sorry for you. -NuMetalIsForLosers
158:. This mainly is directed towards their style of vocals and rhythm patterns. Just because style A is derived from style B does not neccesarily mean all bands in Style B are also Style A. Example: Rock. Rock has it roots in many styles, such as Jazz and Blues to name a few, but all rock bands are not also jazz or blues bands, though there are bands that happen to be both. On a side note... Don't read too much into the word "Heavy" it's definitions are broad and vague, just being heavy and some form of metal does not make one 591:
problem with even doing this in alphabetical order at this point (and may actually claim that the alphabetical argument is a way to further POV), so we may as well just kill the reason for the argument entirely for now and work on making Limp Bizkit the best article possible. That seems like a valid compromise to me. Like I said, Fred Durst has been quiet over the last few days, especially since I removed the genre, so there is precedent for this working. -
560:, and that seems to have cooled off the situation in that article. Ultimately we're debating labels here and trying to classify a band without a full consensus among our editors. This little fight has gotten in the way of useful information additions and we shouldn't let it. So, because of this, I say that as a stopgap solution we remove the genre entirely and leave any discussion of genre in talk until we reach a consensus among editors. Please discuss. - 31: 614:. Neither of them seem to care nearly as much about improving the article as much as having their POV shine through. If my suggested end to this happens to coincide with Egr's POV so be it, if it fits in with LUCPOL's POV, so be it. I just don't like the idea of complete removing anything just because two users couldn't agree on the order of 291:"Jessica was announced clinically dead when she was pulled out of the pit by security guards, but regained consciousness after having air pumped into her lungs as well as an epinephrine shot to her heart from paramedics backstage. She was immediately rushed to Sydney's Concorde Hospital where she died a few hours later." 350:
much rapcore present at all. On their first album, Three Dollar Bill, the band also had a very different sound. So, while you may be correct to a point, the band has really diversified themselves over the years, and their later releases definitely fit more into nu metal than rapcore, especially using your definition. --
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Limp Bizkit (all songs, all albums) = rapcore (many songs) + nu metal (straggle). PS. Rapcore this is rap + "hardcore" (punk, rock or metal) however Nu metal is punk, rock or metal + elements hip hop (or fairly). Limp Bizkit is rapcore, but have nu metal songs. There is dissent rapcore: Limp Bizkit
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Wouldn't removing the genres completely be a bit far? Removing the genres makes no sense as far as coming to a compromise, as the article is already protected, just work out the compromise before unprotection. Personally, I think we should just default to alphabetical for the listing in the infobox,
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As a review of the edit history shows that a revert war has been brewing over the genre of this band, the article has been protected to allow interested parties to come back to the talk page to discuss the issue. When a consensus is reached on the order of the two descriptive terms, the protection
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The edit war wasn't over as much the band's genre but the order in which the genres are listed.. Though the bands genre may be the core of the problem. From the computer I am at I don't have the resources to find RSs for the genre. If the band is both genres the listing should be alphabetical in my
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Limp Bizkit is a very shitty band than can't play guitar. I think the page about limp bizkit should be deleted and the band members should try other careers rather than embarrassing themselves and the country they are from. It's because of bands like limp bizkit people think than heavy metal sucks.
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I personally don't even care what the genre is, or if one is even stated. I just thought it was absurd that some users (won't mention any names) seemed to be fixated on changing them to what was right in their opinion, even though their opinion was obviously the minority. Honestly, if it will make
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I think you're not really looking at the broad scheme of things. It wasn't until Significant Other that the band really had a large hip-hop influence, which continued on Chocolate Starfish, although it was pulled back a bit. On Results May Vary and The Unquestionable Truth, there isn't really very
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It doesnt seem silly to me. It might not be their primary style but surely it doesnt mean that its not one of their musical categories, and because they are rapcore or nu metal bears no evidence of them distancing themselves from heavy metal. I won't edit any further because too many people turn a
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That's the thing, though -- all the arguing and debate about this comparatively meaningless little bit of text is getting in the way of people adding actual useful information here, and as long as it's blocked, they can't add the information. My personal feeling is that LUPCOL would likely find a
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On March 7, 2003 Limp Bizkit would perform their first new material in two years live at WWE's Wrestlemania 1. Not only that, Limp Bizkit had signed up for some live tours, despite lacking a guitarist. On March 26, Durst wrote in a post on the official website: "We are playing wrestlemania this
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Removing any mention of genre completely from an article about a band seems a bit overboard. I would assume that the burden of proof for any order would be on the one who wants to change it. Just because one editor does not agree with something and is willing to edit war and use sockpuppets to
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now available, there appear to be other options to handling the edit war that do not require full protection of the article. As a result, I have removed the protection from the article and will be monitoring activity in case a few blocks become needed (I suspect more than one admins will be
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Also, has anyone heard the term Sports Metal, or perhaps Sportz Metal? because when they first came out I remember some interview with them or a news report or something saying they were being called this, absolutely ages ago and I can't find any reference to it. Maybe I dreamt it?
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Without getting into metal history geekery talking about Helmet, etc, this article clearly says that Korn were around before Limp Bizkit, making it pretty clear that while Limp Bizkit played a big role in widening the popularity of nu metal, they're far from having started it.
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I've added that one of Limp Bizkit's genres is Heavy Metal, please DON'T change it as they ARE considered a heavy metal band. I thought it would've been obvious to anyone whose heard their music that they are heavy, and have some elements of metal. Thanks.
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Could anyone make a seprate page about tours such as "Ladies Night In Cambodia." "1999 MTV New Year" or "2001 Germany tour" "Gorilla tour" on a rooftop for MTV. Or at least mention it in the article. I know "Ladies Night In Cambodia" is already in the
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I mean really, if they didn't start the genre, then reporting that they are often credited with starting it in this article simply propagates the misconception. No matter how popular a misconception is, I doubt Knowledge is meant to spread it around.
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weekend. on the guitars will be head from KoŠÆn and mike smith from SNOT. we've been working with mike for a while. he's dope." Two days later, Durst confirmed via the bandā€™s official website that Mike Smith would be the official guitarist.
618:. LUCPOL's claim seems to be that Limp Bizkit is more Rapcore than Nu-metal and egr claims the reverse. Unless either of the users has a way to back up their claims other than original research I see no reason to change anything. -- 329:
Limp Bizkit is nu metal / rapcore. Have you even listened to any of their albums? Not all of their songs sound like 'Nookie' or 'Rollin'. If you don't have knowledge on a subject you really shouldn't be editing it on Knowledge.
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since then or attempted to come to a real compromise? The answer is no. The problem is that this is a far reaching POV edit war between two users, so far neither has backed up their edits with anything other than
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Reading this page was hilarious for some reason. I gotta admit that it may be written with a slight negative view point (or perhaps its the blunt truth and the facts speak for themselves)
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Please discuss things here in the talk page first before any further actions are taken regarding genres. Things are starting to get a little ridiculous. We don't need an edit war. --
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This is a very negitive article about Limp Bizkit. Not all of Limp Bizkit's history is bad. Do you hate them Yayza? Jeez! You should edit this page and put some good things in.
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I don't see why some of you fail to grasp this simple concept. Stop changing the genres. Discuss the issue here first. I'll bring the issue up with an admin if I have to. --
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And that edit war hasnt gone anywhere either sadly. I haven't looked around much but I did find two links from a single source, it's not much, but it is something.
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Maybe as a more serious compromise, we try to find a way to present the genres on equal footing? Just a thought, I'm not sure how do-able this is. --
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The typographical errors throughout this article are in serious need of fixing. I've gotten some of them corrected but there are most likely more.
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Can't we have more in this article than about 90% of it being about a single incident in Sydney? And has there been a decision since January? --
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The article says Limp Bizkit is "often credited" with starting it, which is true, regardless of whether they actually did start it or not. --
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however many of the articles released after the fans death state that she died on wednesday, wich was 5 days later not several hours later.
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Yes, this is true, but "often credited" and "often innacurately credited" are both true, and the second statement is a more complete one.
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and remove the mention of both rapcore and nu-metal from the intro, especially since having two genres there reads awkwardly. --
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earned a record for the most number of times the word "fuck" was used in a song. This is not true, "Y'all Want a Single" by
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the claim that Limp Bizkit is either a rapcore or nu metal band. Someplaces to start looking for such references are the
439: 212: 442:. Even getting involved parties to start talking instead of simply reverting will be a step in the right direction. -- 397:. Appropriate citations will also help prevent this revert war from restarting after a resolution is determined. -- 277:
Well, the message on the page said this site needed major edits, so I've revised the whole thing. Hope you like it!
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achieve his goal does not mean we should bend to accomodate his aggressive tactics. Has either user edited
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Regardless of the band's status, the article should not have been littered with that many mistakes.
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Any thoughts? Wanted to see if someone knows something about the history of this before I edit it.
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I would like to suggest a compromise for this article. I recently removed the genre entirely from
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1) It wasn't Wrestlemania 1. 2) March 26 is after March 7; does it mean WM was on March 27? --
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I meant to say I re-worked the entire Early years section, not the entire history. - Yayza
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Its based on a friends description of Fred being high. He said he was like a limp biscut.
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Limp Bizkit is a rapcore group. This is not nu metal. Nu metal is ...Korn, Deftones etc.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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blind eye to the fact that they can be considered heavy metal fair and square.
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Does anyone know what Limp Bizkit's name means? I have an idea of what it is.
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i believe limp bizkit has gone back to their original styling, haven't they?
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Actually this page looks like it is just part of a bigger edit war involving
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Bizkit probably referring to fred's privates. LIMP bizkit. Get the driftĀ ? -
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Hey, well, the Insane Clown Posse song "fuck the world" says fuck 93 times
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of the band is lower case. Amazon, MTV, et al. spell the band's name as
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can be removed either by placing a request for unprotection at
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in the band.. the official name stays however as Limp Bizkit
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etc between nu metal: Deftones, Slipknot, Korn, Static-X.
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One thing that could help to resolve this issue is if
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Zoe
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Heavy Metal
Heavy Metal
Wildnox
Golbez
Limp Bizkit
e.e. cummings
Xmas Ghost
15:48, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
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18:23, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
AllStarZ
03:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Raki-holic
10:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

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