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single or a regular single (with no mention of EPs for anything over). As per the U.S. Recording Academy, anything under 15 minutes and 4 different songs or less is considered a single (with no mention of EPs for anything over). With these 2 classifications in mind, an EP is indeed a studio album; however, the RIAA has a cut-off of 30 minutes to classify as an EP though, so, I understand that if you were to use RIAA as a reference (however, keep in mind, this particular EP is only 17 seconds short of the 30 minute mark).

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metal then what is it?And if they are only rapcore and nu metal why do many songs like Phenomenon,Nookie,Full nelson,Hot dog and MANY OTHER songs contain alternating verses and chorses?(These songs are rapcore,nu metal AND Alte metal)And about funk,what genre can we say for "ReArranged"?as I said before you're right Funk metal is not their genre but is strongly their style in rap rock(in songs like Counterfeit,Stink finger and many others) and since the article doesnt have STYLE part there's nowhere else to put it.

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I figured you’d misread or missed the dates. Of course there’s no time limit, but it doesn’t make sense to reactivate an old discussion when there’s many newer discussions that are the current consensus that shape the current article. I mean, look at the article. It obviously is totally not according to this discussion. Go read the newer discussions on the articles current form.

1497:: Thank you for going in depth with your answer and providing some sort of background. My apologies for not including sources on any of my statements. I forgot that non-fans might see this discussion (and quite frankly, I'm surprised that I'm even going to these lengths for a band that I'm not passionate about, but hey, Knowledge for ya). @ 931:'s article you might find alt metal in infobox.I think it's because although most of Nu metal songs are alternative metal too,There are nu metal songs which are not alternative(for example Soulfly's debut album had a lot of nu metal songs which were not alt metal and also Korn's debut) So when we mention both,it will make it more clear. 1714:

impact/importance/popularity in LB's official canon. If MTV said something like "With Wes Borland back from his three-year absence, Limp Bizkit have released one of their most accomplished/refreshing/daring/whatever album in years" and a couple more writers had acknowledged it similarly, I'd say yes. Sorry, but that's how I see it. —

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came out back in 2005, and everyone literally treated it as a proper studio album (as 2 of the articles I posted shows, I'm certain I can find a dozen more but MTV and IGN are big enough names). The bigger picture is that this is an important release by the band. Maybe not financially, but historically, it most certainly is.

1753:, got worse sales numbers and equal reviews; however, the only difference is that 1 is a full-length and 1 is an EP (an EP that is only 17 seconds short of being a full-length). I think that I should have added EPs to lesser known bands, to give more credibility to my argument (I got lucky that there were many fans of 1525:- After the release of this EP, but before the release of their next album, it was listed on the band's official website along with their other full-length studio albums (and their 1 remix album and 1 compilation album, but because of reasons I stated earlier about new material, those 2 are excluded from this topic). 356:". That is what the majority of sources call the band. I'm sorry that the term isn't fashionable, but the band Limp Bizkit is more frequently associated with nu metal than any other genre. They owned it. Fred Durst said he was proud to be a part of nu metal. They are a nu metal band. That should be the lead. 1436:

is frequently misunderstood: the key idea is that artist discography sections "should also provide a summary of the musician's major works". If fact, labeling the section "Discography" is misleading, since the effect is to exclude "minor" releases, which are normally part of a discography. While live

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Everything I said can be applied to other remix albums, compilations, live albums, and maxis by the band, and these statements are obvious but for the ones unfamiliar: all of the material is brand new, none of the material is live or remixes or re-recordings, the release is not a promotional item and

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When you search on any music website to purchase the album, almost all list it as an EP, including Amazon and eBay. Not to mention there was very minimal advertising regarding the release, something that LB has done extensively with their full length albums I think we should revert the pages back the

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When you called my research mundane is when I took it personal. I'm sorry for retaliating. In regards to the subject at hand, I am honestly surprised that the 2 of you share the idea that, just because this release didn't get outstanding reviews or platinum sales, that it is not on an equal level as

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was pretty much a flop as well, if not worse. It's just an indication of their declining popularity. Also, it was their intention to market the EP on a low level, but not the point where it was an obscure promotional EP. I know that personal views can't be taken as a source, but I remember when this

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I’m not sure why you’re going on the offensive here. I was saying that as a helpful pointer to you. Most people don’t purposely comment on discussions that stopped years ago to editors that haven’t logged on to edit for years. They’d find it to be a waste of time, like talking into an empty hallway.

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The genre should be Rap metal, nu metal, rapcore, alternative rock. It doesn't matter what Fred Durst said, many bands have classifyed themselves in a genre that they weren't, for example Motorhead calls themselves rock and roll when they are obviously more speed metal. Limp Bizkit's overall genre

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As allmusic has been used as a reliable source in many articles in wikipedia,We cant count it out of sources cause we THINK it's not reliable.yea sometimes what is wrote there is just shit but as I said,it has been used in many other articles.And can anyone answer me if "Build the Bridge" is not alt

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are not needed which is why i keep removing them because if you think they are classed as these then you dont know your genres, yeah sure allmusic might list them both as the bands genres but that is obviously incorrect. Elements of the two genres in the band's music are VERY minimal as far as i can

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wich is a combination of rapcore,Nu metal AND ALT METAL, and Lonly world and many other songs are Alt metal! About funk metal, yea it might be not good to be mentioned in infobox, But it IS their style in rapcore.(It could be mentioned in Style part wich this article doesnt even have and thats why I

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I'm not saying this out of hate, I.E., "oh nu metal sucks, this band sucks so they should be associated with the genre that sucks"... Limp Bizkit is a *great* nu metal band. That's their genre. The sources calling them rap metal and rap rock are conflating those terms with nu metal, they mean to say

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I’ve been working in band discographies for over a decade. If we went by your standards of “had singles” and “got RS coverage” then virtually every EP with an article would be mentioned in discography sections. This is obviously not how it’s handled, conceptually or in practice. If you truly wanted

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is included in the list, as it was marketed on the same level as their other albums. Again, you COULD point me to other pages without EPs listed, but, this proves that the argument is in its infancy stages. (note: my apologies to anyone that remembers me from NIN, you might be getting hit with some

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As mentioned at the beginning, every page should be treated on a case-by-case basis. You could direct me to other bands that don't have an important EP included (there are plenty, yes). That is simply because no one has bothered to argue the case yet. It is more telling when there are bands that DO

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1.Rap Metal is a subgenre of rapcore and they both are subgenres of raprock.on of them will be enough to describe their genre.(you can look in Rap rock article in wikipedia).2.As I said,as a reliable source (which has been used in many other articles) sais they are alt metal and funk metal,there is

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Yeah, I agree with you regards alt-metal. They are mainly a nu metal band, at least that's what I consider them. There's been a fair amount of genre-switching going on, specifically removing genres that LB clearly do represent - but if you want to add a genre, be sure to back it up with references.

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The only argument that I can see someone saying, is them pointing to the vague ("generally included, etc.") guidelines posted on Knowledge. Besides, an EP CAN be classified as a studio album, actually! As per the UK Chart Supervisory Committee, anything under 20 minutes is considered either a maxi

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Oh Im sorry was there a time limit to respond. This discussion may be never ending and I will not start a new topic because I am responding to this exact topic. What are you even spewing? My opinion matters as much as anyone else's here who did not source a third party. This is the talk page after

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You’re responding to a 5+ year old conversation, so there’s probably not much point in chiming in here. If you’ve got something new to add, then you could start a new discussion at the bottom of the talk page, but you’re going to want to base your arguments around what third party sources say, not

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Please read the massive discussions held a year or two back a few sections up. There was only consensus for rap rock or nu metal. It took forever to even get to that point. I think it’s best to stick to that. In general, a band like Limp Bizkit isn’t best defined, nor is it primarily classified by

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that agreed to adding that band's EPs), so maybe I made a mistake here. If no one else comments within the week, I'm just gonna re-visit this issue in the future, as such a radical change to standard practices should began elsewhere. Again, sorry for retaliating, and have a good one + be safe out

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I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote the above. I've always known that LB is nu metal at the core. Funk metal doesn't really come into it. And I've got to say I don't like allmusic as a "reliable" source, either, since their categories are highly unlikely to have been given much thought.

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I know some sources call them that, but there’s a lot more that call them nu metal. The lead isn’t vague enough, and encompasses one of three sources genres. It’s could be more helpful to have the lead saying “Limp Bizkit is an American heavy metal band” or saying “Limp Bizkit is an American rock

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Well how else to you decide if something was a major work in their discography? It wasn’t reviewed well. Didn’t win awards. Isn’t featured in positive retrospectives. It isn’t particularly a prominent part of their existence now. These are the types you consider, not whether there were singles,

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And I've been on working on music articles for over 15 years. The reason why you're not seeing articles with important EPs listed is because no one has bothered to argue against it yet. I understand that when concepts and practices are altered, it can be confusing and scary (especially from an

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I'd like to see a different perspective on this subject, as it seems your knowledge on the concepts of discographies and major releases is inadequate to this subject. My "mundane bulletpoints" are facts surrounding the release of this EP, and you're attempting to skew history based on personal

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Solino: with regards to the sources you added in recently, I just wanted to address them here for clarity. Yahoo music and buzz are directly taken from allmusic, which we're already using. Mahalo appears to be user-edited, just like wikipedia. Artistopia also appears to simply be copied from

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do as you want.we are not here to fight.we are here to make the article the best for the readers.You can tell all the sources that their stupid to call LB funk.I don't know.As I said before.Funk is their style in rapcore and if the article had "style and influences"part it should be mentiond

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I know little about LB (I occasionally monitor music RfCs), so I'd be happy to defer to the experts. However, just based on what I've seen so far, it doesn't look like a major work. Besides the charts and promo/press releases, critics aren't speaking of it in a way that suggests its

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you removed Funk again!I can name many songs that are alt metal: "Nookie","phenomenon","Hot Dog","Full nelson" and "Take a look around"(all mixtures of rapcore,nu metal and alt metal)"It will be Ok" and "my way" (Nu metal and Alt metal)and even "Nobody like you" is kind of alt

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opinions, financial aspects, popularity, and awards. If anything, those things you keep bringing up are just 1 of multiple factors that decides a major release. Just because this EP didn't have the popularity-driven aspects does not exclude it from being a major release.

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An IP recently brought up this concern - claiming that its current classification as an EP was wrong, and that it should be considered an album. And while I first thought this was misguided, upon looking around, it seems like that's actual plausible. Mainstream,

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Its okay. For the record, ”Mundane” was not meant as a shot at you, it’s nothing personal. If anything, it’s a shot at Limp Bizkit. Or the music industry. They’ve given you very little to work with here. There’s nothing but run-of-the-mill coverage on this EP.

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Limp Bizkit has a separate discography page. This is actually in favor of including the EP in the main article, because unlike the discography page, the main article would classify the EP as equally important, instead of confining it to its own section.

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no reason not to add it until you got a source which sais they are not.(I told this before but as nobody answers I'll change it.If you have a source which sais they are not funk metal or alt metal you can bring it here and change the genre)

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is not listed. This is because many editors quickly undo the edits as they think it is against Knowledge's guidelines. It is true, that Knowledge says not to include EPs and other non full-length albums; however, the exact quote is:

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I don't know if the one thrash metal song they have (Head to the Barricade) is genre-defining in any sense... Rapcore needs to be added for sure though... Other than that, the genre definistion of LB is pretty good as of now.

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Alright very well, i will give up in this editing war against you. But the way i see it is I was simply removing a genre that they clearly are not catergorised as regardless of what some source might say, Korn are classed as

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Ok I fixed it.and someone moved it adding "Alternative metal is not Honest" and "Funk Metal is not needed" .Hey!This is not about your opinions! We have reliable sources for all that.Besides many Limp Bizkit songs like

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because pretty much every album that came after Follow the leader has that sort of sound as its hard to pick out the hip hop influences in comparison. On the other hand Limp Bizkit have pretty much been categorised

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was originally an EP in the UK. Then, when released in the US, they added some outtakes/singles, and it became a compilation; however, this EP/compilation is listed among their major releases on the main page.

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WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GENRE? Who has douts about Limp Bizkit's music being rapcore???? AND since ALL reliable sources know them as Rapcore AND alternative metal, Why the hell Someone took it from their genre???

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None of that is atypical for your average EP released by a popular musician though. Look closer, at the bigger picture, for context. The EP was a minor release with little impact. 4 years prior, they released

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And that’s just it - the EP was a commercial and critical flop, released to little impact after the band had fallen from mainstream relevance. I mean, there’s a reason why they never released a part 2 or 3.

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The EP has its own section in the article, and even so, is mentioned at the introduction, but yet, is not even included in the list? That sounds important enough to be included, in my opinion.

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It was treated as a proper studio album by the band. Despite the fact that it did not get a marketing budget (it was the band's goal to try to create buzz by no marketing, modern day example,

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Yes it should not matter what the band member says, only what their sound actually is. But with that said, their sound is NOT Alternative Rock, its Hard Rock with a bit of Hip Hop added in.

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HEY I'M SICK OF THIS!ACCORDING TO WIKIPEDIA RULES,YOU CAN'T MOVE A STATMENT WHITH RELIABLE SOURCE ! At least talk it first HERE then change it!You really dont know how to use wikipedia!!

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But yeah, these blocks of paragraphs might drive other people away. If no one new responds, I'll either make a new RFC after deleting this one, or post my question in a different place.

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Looking for counterpoints before making the changes. I'm asking here because discussion is minimal at TUT's talk page, and the prior discuss on this in 2011 didn't really go anywhere.

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reliable sources, as merely a rock or metal band. That approach works on a lot of bands, but not particularly ones like this, where rock and rap were so predominantly used.

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is a great example, as the general agreement was to include not 1, not 2, but 3 EPs, as their releases are histortically important and their contents are individually new.

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Besides,as a reliable source which has been used in many other articles sais they are funk and alt,You need a reliable source to say they are not if you want to change it!

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is regarded as an EP all over Limp Bizkit-related pages. Allmusic and the band's site itself don't consider it as such, but rather as a full-lenght album. Take a look at

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They didn't advertise it because Fred Durst wanted it to be an underground album. eBay listings are based on the sellers' choosing. Retailers are not reliable sources.

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YouTube videos, or MTV coverage, or any of these other mundane bulletpoints you keep bringing up. Any EP released by anyone remotely popular would have that in 2005.

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Durst has called Limp Bizkit Nu Metal and a few other things (Funk in a song, can't recall which one), but in this specific interviews, he calls the band rapcore:

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The same stupid cunt that left a nasty comment in the "Band Name" section also left another nasty comment here. I removed it, of course, and I need to say again:

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This supports the fact that the guidelines of not including EPs is NOT set in stone, and that it should be treated on a case-by-case basis. Do you think

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was more rap metal than anything else since they included much more hip hop and metal elements than anything else which is a characteristic of rap metal

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admin's view that is accustomed to such solidified guidelines). As I said in my initial post, these arguments are in its infancy stages. I started with

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more input though, I’d recommend cutting back on these massive rambling responses though. Giant walls of texts scare new people away from jumping in.

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but sources are not being provided that indicate it is considered by others to be a "major work". I'd change my vote to "yes" if this were shown. —

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I would say they are rap metal, nu metal, and alt metal for sure nearly any source will tell you they falling within atleast one of those genres.--

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IT doesn't make it any less of an album, just like how jar of flies in one of Alice in Chains best albums their just EP albums not studio albums.

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Are bots really still summoning people for this? This discussion was started almost 4 months ago and it’s been stale for 3 months now.

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is another example, as their 1 EP was agreed to be included in the list, despite half of the release being (new) live tracks as well.

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I'm restoring it back the way I had it because there's been no discussion and the sources obviously discredit this being an EP.

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I just don't understand why you're using sales figures and popularity as the basis for this argument, though. Their next album

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are the only genres that are needed on the bands page, as they obviously come under those genres much more than anything else.

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The Genre should be Nu metal. rap metal, and rapcore, Fred Durst even said their band was rapcore, so it should be added.

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Is there an unofficial rule that an album has to have a certain amount of songs so that it is considered an album or EP?

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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Can someone make an article for the new album? Its pretty much confirmed its coming out so please make one.

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is stupid, I have gave up doing editing wars with you but i know a user called Prophaniti who often deletes

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band pages, so hopefully he will come across this one soon, if not ill contact him about it.

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section of the article, Limp Bizkit's major releases are listed; however, their 2005 EP

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and I'm working my way thru (both adding and removing EPs, example, I removed EPs from

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It is historically misleading to not include it. It was released between the albums

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band”. Since only having one of their genres as the lead gives a wrong impression.

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Ok I found more sources for Alt metal and funk metal.Now it's not only allmusic.

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music video for a song on the EP, showing that the EP serves as a foundation

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for the most part? so basically just that alone is enough.

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was only 30 minutes and it is an album. -- the butterfly

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My reason for this particular release is as follows:

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is a completely different example, as their release

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The album after this, 1029:there.Bus as it doesn't,It's to be in infobox. 599:This message was posted before February 2018. 135:Also, regarding whether or not this is an LP, 1386:is another odd example, as their compilation 454:directly called it an EP in a 2012 interview 8: 1183: 1140: 361: 323: 1294:should be listed among the other albums? 487:I have just modified 5 external links on 1517:35 different versions of the EP released 771:tell, therefore I strongly beleive that 430:explicitly call it an album, not an EP. 1730:these awkward attempts to discredit me 1538:another news article about the release 1001:Yes i deleted it because to call them 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 927:You're right.But even if you look at 557:https://instagram.com/p/yaaLsoIQ99/// 7: 1451:is noted in the band's AllMusic bio, 838:Build a Bridge sounds more like and 1071:. And I don't mean temporarily. -- 24: 1449:The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) 1292:The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) 1279:The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) 1269:The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) 491:. Please take a moment to review 175:The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) 148:The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) 86:The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) 80:The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) 29: 1365:have an important EP included. 970:throughout their career so far. 1529:news article about the release 1081:21:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC) 145:was only slightly longer than 1: 1413:exists, this is unnecessary. 1220:02:34, 28 December 2018 (UTC) 1202:00:33, 28 December 2018 (UTC) 1177:16:55, 21 December 2018 (UTC) 1159:15:19, 21 December 2018 (UTC) 1134:20:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 1039:22:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 1023:22:09, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 996:18:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 980:17:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 956:17:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 941:15:23, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 922:00:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 904:is basically a derivative of 894:23:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC) 880:21:22, 26 December 2008 (UTC) 864:14:32, 26 December 2008 (UTC) 854:so I will add in the source. 831:23:44, 24 December 2008 (UTC) 809:08:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC) 793:01:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC) 758:08:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC) 742:20:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC) 667:11:17, 23 December 2017 (UTC) 474:14:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC) 177:just consider it a studio EP. 1686:| from your first response: 445:15:47, 3 November 2017 (UTC) 402:12:36, 3 November 2017 (UTC) 376:03:18, 3 November 2017 (UTC) 338:03:13, 3 November 2017 (UTC) 142:How Could Hell Be Any Worse? 116:18:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC) 1875:01:40, 14 August 2020 (UTC) 1855:01:26, 14 August 2020 (UTC) 1165:your personal assessments. 712:14:51, 11 August 2018 (UTC) 694:13:35, 11 August 2018 (UTC) 308:08:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC) 1893: 1785:19:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1768:18:58, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1744:18:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1724:18:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1709:18:26, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1669:18:08, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1651:17:46, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1623:17:31, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1604:17:19, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1585:17:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1564:16:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1485:15:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1464:14:12, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1425:12:08, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1401:01:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 1304:01:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC) 630:(last update: 5 June 2024) 484:Hello fellow Wikipedians, 272:08:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 255:03:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC) 161:19:58, 31 March 2011 (UTC) 131:23:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC) 1119:20:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC) 1100:21:51, 14 June 2010 (UTC) 1055:18:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC) 228:09:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC) 201:19:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC) 1839:02:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC) 1829:all the walls of texts. 1818:14:36, 23 May 2020 (UTC) 1255:21:31, 9 June 2012 (UTC) 1069:ban the fucking user now 409:The Unquestionable Truth 1552:chart archive of the EP 1411:Limp Bizkit discography 480:External links modified 292:01:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC) 84:Hi. 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