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The spring viewed as a input-output linear system in the way the example wants to show it is indeed a system that maps trajectories (inputs) into forces (outputs). In this sense I think my explanation is far more consistent that the current one. Can we have an explanation that rescue the best of both
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The article says a linear system "can be described" by a linear operator H that maps x(t) to y(t). But the article doesn't say HOW the linear operator H is used to describe the system, and it doesn't say what x(t) represents or what y(t) represents (other than calling them the "input" and the
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the :applied forces and that was exactly the y(t) I introduced. Additionally the condition "Letting y(t) = 0" is completely unnecessary and indeed confusing... What is the output then? if it is supposed to be always 0?
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