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the page. Let me be clear: I appreciate Diego's painstaking work in creating the samples and uploading them, but I'm just not sure this page is the best venue for such a project. What about putting these graphics on the page for each individual typeface? I'm certainly willing to help create new pages.
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I see the serifs in the lower case Thesis TheMix letters like p and q, but there are none on the upper case letters. Please consider making an article on at least one of these typefaces, whether the one you mention, or one of the four above. They may be uncommon, but an example would be good to have
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I have a really fast internet conection, so, I never thought that this page could become very heavy to load. In fact, I think that the graphical list we are creating is useful to have a global overview of the typefaces. What I suggest is to remove all the contents of the "List of
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I am intrigued how this page potentially might accommodate a couple of hundred thousand examples of listed typefaces. But then I have always struggled with the purpose of this page. How does this page 'List of typefaces' turn into a discussion on typeface classification, with examples? To me, that's
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That's because the furhter out you zoom the less pixels are used to display the letters, and the mediocre screen resolution---the number of dots (pixels) per inch---forces the app to render innacurately, and you lose the appearance of monospaced even width characters. What's this got to do with the
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I'm wondering whether we really want to have thorough graphic examples of all these typefaces here. The page is called *List* of
Typefaces, not Examples of Typefaces, and this could get way out of hand in a hurry. For anyone without a broadband connection, it has already become a nightmare to load
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PS Slowly, slowly: Once this entry reverts to a list, ("A light version ...") some interested person might link items to their individual pages, (a lot of them already were, weren't they?). That will serve as "A graphical version..." Then, before there are 'grand arguments over whether one of the
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Sorry to need to say no. It displays fine only if the computer with the browser have this font installed. It would otherwise be of no instructional value. Instead it would be instructive to create images (raster or SVG) containing a carefully selected list of characters, f.ex. "abcde" or "aâbcć"
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The former comments were made 3 and 6 years ago. Broadband is far less of an issue now in places that do have access to the
Internet, whether in the 1st or 3rd world. Is it compatible with Wiki guidelines to display each typeface name in the relevant typeface (with obvious exceptions such as
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So everyone is agreed. This is no longer a list of typefaces. It should not persist in this form. Is there anything worth saving? The editor who, with the best of intentions, made these delicious tables should deep-six them, hey? I ain't gonna do it. There's a lot of love in there.
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Garalde or a Transitional', arbitration should be given to the rashly conceived 'Contents' masquerading as a workable classification. Alternatively, the list is a single alphabetical list -- a revert to 2005?
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Instead of a list, why not simply use
Category:Typefaces - with appropriate sub-categories underneath - instead? Sub-categories could include Typefaces by style, Typefaces by script, Typefaces by licence etc. and would be automatically sorted.
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I'm not quite sure what 'notable' means here. Is this article the start of a definitive list of all typefaces or if not what criteria are we using for inclusion. I propose some more subcat headings:
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Font several useful classification schemes already exist. Visit
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