Talk:List of Atlantic hurricane records

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depressions as well as tropical storms. According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), ″A hurricane is a type of tropical cyclone - the general term for all circulating weather systems (counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere) over tropical waters.″ This definition is cited from NOAA's hurricane preparedness guide from 1998, published by the US Department of Commerce. It further describes a hurricane as, ″An intense tropical weather system with a well-defined circulation and maximum sustained winds of 74 mph (64 knots) or higher. In the western Pacific, hurricanes are called typhoons, and similar storms in the Indian Ocean are called cyclones.″ An updated source for this guide can be found at this site for the US Department of Homeland Security Digital Library -

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Tammy is the 20th storm of the season but is named with the letter T, which screws everything up because T is reserved for storm number 19. I'm leaving it as-is because chronologically it's correct. But I feel notes need to be added to clarify why it's there, and why the T storm (Tammy) below it is listed as number 20 instead of 19 (which I explained above). Otherwise, if we want to go strictly by named storms we can just remove subtropical storm 19 and shift Tammy and everything below it upward one row. Obviously we wouldn't exclude the storms that formed before naming them was a thing. But that's just an idea. It's fine to leave it as it is too and just add notes.

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systems that were notable for forming at unusual latitude/longitudes. I think we could lessen the ambiguity if each entry explained why a storm forming at a given location is unusual. As for the "Unusual landfall locations" section, while these entries don't seem to qualify as records per se, they certainly seem to meet the overall notability criteria. Another page,

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anti-pivot (e.g. the empty 22-day interval from 10 to 31 March inclusive, and the empty 12.25-day interval from 22 February to 5 March inclusive) and a (couple of) shorter gap(s) (e.g. the empty 13-day interval 1 to 13 April inclusive, and the empty 1-day interval on 17 April) seem(s) understandable. From the data in

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The No-Name Storm of 1993 is omitted from this list. It affected 22 states, had winds over 100+ mph and came in near Tampa Bay at high tide with a 9 ft storm surge in Hudson, FL. It traveled up the eastern seaboard with seas that were 65 ft in the Atlantic. Most people were not notified more than 2

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There is a problem regarding what storms are going into these charts. The thing that throws this off right now is the inclusion of the 1887 season in the "Most storms" table, while excluding all of the seasons that have allegedly had the "fewest storms". There were for example.... a lot of 7 or below

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Per NOAA, the data prior to 1965 is not really accurate; prior to the advent of satellite tracking, many tropical storms and hurricanes went unnoticed at sea. I added in NOAA's own chart which shows this, but it is kind of an ugly thing. I'm not too familiar with the bar graph stuff on Knowledge, but

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then go ahead. If you guys feel otherwise though I will remove the "Extreme latitudes and longitudes" section as well. I do think it is interesting, but too many things are being placed in this article to try and pass them off as new records. We go by the sources and not what we think might be a cool

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Well, I don't think we will know for sure whether or not Irmas time as a Category 5 tied or surpassed the 1932 Cuba hurricane until its best track data comes out. Based on the current operational advisories given by NHC, Irma spent 75 hours as a Category 5, wheres 1932 Cuba spent 78 hours, or 3 days,

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As I understand it the definition being used is essentially "This table is a list of systems that have spent the longest amount of time as a tropical or subtropical cyclone. Time spent as an extra- or post-tropical system is not included in the total." A similar sort of statement should probably be

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Why can't the information remain in both articles? It seems releveant in both. Some things, like the list of hurricanes by intensity, belong better here IMO, some, like the list of category 5 hurricanes, belong in the other article. But some things, like the list of most easterly hurricanes/storms

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I See your point, though I have a better solution – change the 1st column to "Rank". The table needs a column denoting 1st-place, 2nd-place, etc., and renaming the column in this manner plus modifying the numbers accordingly does so without the redundancy you noted. I have gone ahead and implemented

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7. The storm listed as the earliest 20th storm has a T name, which belongs at number 19. This means there are now three. The NHC didn't notice the unnamed subtropical storm 19 until post-season analysis, which creates two T storms for the year 2005. If they noticed it they'd have named it. Therefore

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4. Unnamed hurricane fifteen is listed as the old record for the O storm, coming in after 2005 Ophelia. Below it, occupying the old record for the P storm for whatever reason, is 2011 Ophelia. Since the unnamed storm was a category 2 hurricane, the 15th tropical cyclone, and formed earlier than 2011

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You definitely bring up several good points here. In regards to the "Seasonal activity" section, it appears that the "cutoff" is the top 9 seasons. In addition, it seems that the "Extreme latitudes and longitudes" section lists not only storms that set a specific record, but also a wider spectrum of

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Shereth is correct, the name of the article should be modified to be technically accurate. Otherwise this is a misleading reference. The term ″tropical cyclone″ is a meteorological term used to describe rotating circulating weather systems which form over tropical waters. This would include tropical

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This is from the Knowledge article about Humberto: "Hurricane Humberto was a minimal hurricane that formed and intensified faster than any other North Atlantic tropical cyclone on record before landfall." Based on this information, I believe that it should be listed as the fastest intensification of

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1) When it comes to counting storm occurrences in any given month, the rule of thumb is to use the month in which the storm originated. So any storm occurring at the end of a month and crossing over into the next month counts towards the previous month's total. (Ex. ALEX of 2004 formed on July 31,

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3. Now it gets weirder. Ophelia and 2011 Nate are tied as the earliest 15th named storms. Same situation as above, except with the deletion of Maria there's now an empty space in the slot for second earliest N storm. So instead of deleting it I've moved it up into the previous record slot to occupy

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I guess the important thing to consider is how reliable sources treat this topic. As far as I know, I don't recall any such sources discussing earliest/latest-forming storms of the year. However, my understanding is that the practice of delineating records by the calendar year has been practiced on

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I wonder if I'm the only one who has considered renaming this article? Strictly speaking these are not hurricane records, but tropical cyclone records; there are numerous storms in various lists here that never achieved hurricane status. Calling this a list of hurricane records may be potentially

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But not many are true records. The location ones are trivial (we have specific articles on easternmost and southernmost storms, but those are pretty tame in comprising to storms in the Pacific (Vamei and Pali both around 2° N). And most of the landfall locations already have articles for the truly

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Shouldn't the title "Most intense landfalling Atlantic hurricanes in the United States (HSI)" have the "intense" replaced with "severe". The Hurricane Severity Index is supposed to measure severity, not intensity, right. In any case, intensity is incorporated as a category in the index, along with

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From the article: "Significant amounts of convection formed in the next few hours, between late on September 11 and early on September 12. As a result, the depression was reclassified as Tropical Storm Nadine at 0300 UTC" The time it became a Tropical Storm was 0300 UTC on September 12, 2012 right

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I don't see anything wrong with having a Bermuda section on the page. Regardless of the reason as to why landfalls in Bermuda are unusual, I don't see why one section should be kept rather than another. Even though Bermuda gets a lot of direct hits, landfalls are fairly unusual. The last landfall

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There are a few storms that seem to be missing, partially from the alphabet soup that was the end of the 2005 hurricane season. I recall storms developing straight through December (the shear just didn't develop over the Carribean that usually does). Therefore, I think some of the records are at

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An explicit definition of "lifetime" and of "what" (hurricanes, tropical storms, tropical depressions, post-tropical depression, extra-tropical depression, subtropical depression, pre(sub)tropical depression, etc. or any combination of these) seems helpful both to contributors and readers of the

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are much more vague in that area. I don't really see the purpose of merging it as it might be more difficult to find records for Atlantic hurricanes under a page where "records" is not in the title. Certainly some of the information is trivial and extraneous, particularly the Latitude/Longitude

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The rationale behind this is that the closer a storm is to the climatological centre of levity of the lull between two seasons (or the more eloignated a storm is from the climatological centre of gravity of the preceding or the following season, which seems to be near 10 September according to

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I said above I don't think we should have Bermuda. Having too many "unusual" locations makes the section useless. And honestly, Fabian 03 wasn't a technical landfall, but that's arguably the most important Bermuda hurricane, and that also makes it useless. No need for that section here when we

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An extra reason for taking midnight of 1 April as the anti-pivot is that the climatological average in the decay of activity seems to be slower in the months before 1 April than the climatological average in the increase of activity after 31 March. Hence a (couple of) longer gap(s) before the

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included in the following section (Farthest Travels) to indicate that the distance doesn't include distance covered while non-tropical. As a bit of an aside, I noticed that the table is not consistent with the given citation; the list being linked to does not include Storm 4 of 1926.

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be the earliest-forming tropical storm (or the latest, I guess?), or is this some quirk of how seasons are defined? It's included in the list in the section on earliest-forming first storms of the season, but the Groundhog Day storm is still first on the earliest tropical storm list.

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if Nate, September 7, 2011 (18z) is the 16th storm in its season, then it needs to take Philippe's spot, and Maria either needs to be moved to the #15 spot (as tie or runner-up, I'm not sure), or the nonexistent unnamed storm between Maria and Nate needs to take the #15 spot.

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For the record, I am hoping to trim back the tables in that page to just the top 10 highest/lowest seasons on record since ACE is used around the world by the relevant agencies. Adding the top 10 in here as well as list of Atlantic hurricane seasons wouldn't be a bad shout.

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1. Lee is, for some reason, tied with Maria as the second-earliest 13th named storm. That doesn't make any sense because the L storm is number 12. So I've removed it entirely because its formation date is not earlier than the dates of the two L storms up above it.

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What is the rule for adding a storm if it is not consistently a tropical storm? Afterall, there was a period of about a day where Nadine was considered post-tropical. Should it still be added here? If we do keep it in the list, perhaps a note should be added.

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5. The removal of 2011 Ophelia leaves an open space for Philippe, which is currently listed as the second-earliest 17th, or R, storm. Obviously it isn't either, so it's been moved upward to occupy the empty space generated by the removal of 2011 Ophelia.

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I think this section should be changed back to only include tropical storms since there are many tropical depressions in the pre-satellite era which may or may not allow those seasons to end up on this chart in months like February, April, and June.

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Philip Klotzbach (leader of the CSU tropical predictions team) is saying on Twitter that Irma has already tied the 1932 Cuba hurricane for time as a Cat 5...but the table in this article lists Irma at 3rd place well behind.Who's counting

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In addition, the records for months outside of the regular hurricane season read as follows: DECEMBER = 2 in 1887 and 2003; JANUARY = 1 in 1978; FEBRUARY = 1 in 1952; MARCH = 1 in 1908; APRIL = 1 in 1992 and 2003; MAY = 2 in 1887

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calling her such. Its okay to have "records" tables as long as they are considered to actually BE noteworthy records. Where do sources normally cut off lists to include the most relevant information? Just something to think about... -

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I think the bigger question would be, what is this article trying to be? I it meant to be an article for record breaking cyclones or a collection of statistics? The table you are trying to include is basically the same as the ones on

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Knowledge for years, at least since 2010. (Of course, mere precedent is no reason why we should continue this practice.) What is the general consensus on this issue? Can any experienced Tropical Cyclone editors give their thoughts?

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I feel like this article is forgetting about the South Atlantic. While I doubt it would shake the entire article up, there would be some changes. I'm not entirely sure how we would do orders though (maybe separate by hemisphere?).

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From this perspective, not so much the 1938 Storm 1 - which was a category 1 hurricane on 4-5 January - is the most outlying category 1 hurricane in January, but the 2016 Alex - which was a category 1 hurricane on 14-15 January -

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it may be deemed. Even better might be a comparison to a climatology which takes into account the climatologically averaged power (i.e. in megawatts) generated by (sub)tropical storms as a function of the days of the year.

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Officially, the time that Nadine was post-tropical does not count... I've updated Nadine's total to reflect this. I've also added some hidden text next to Nadine's place on the table explaining how to update the total.

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There is no official assessment of its intensity by the National Hurricane Center so we have no valid reason to include it. Given a lack of station observations, any intensity estimates would be speculative anyway. ~

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Those are just some examples of what needs work done here. The main issue though is with the tables themselves, at one point does x hurricane become a "record"? Are we doing the tables by the top 5, top 10, top 20? -

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We have to eventually address the elephant in the room and figure out what information is officially classified as a record, versus excess information that has no value other than a statistic. Here is an example:

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2) The monthly records should read as follows: JUNE = 3 in 1886, 1909, 1936, and 1968; JULY = 5 in 2005; AUGUST = 7 in 1933, 1995, and 2004; SEPTEMBER = 8 in 2002; OCTOBER = 7 in 2005; NOVEMBER = 3 in 2005

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is there any way to add uncertainty bars to them? The other possibility might be just graphing the data post-1965, as we are reasonably certain that the data after that point is accurate. Thoughts?

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I am not sure how to edit the page but now the size of Igor has grown to 500 NM which is 575 miles up from the 518 listed below...I can not figure out where the edit is for the table that is there

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Are you sure 2024 should be part of the most active June party? Tropical Storm Chris got its name on June 30 at 11 PM AST, but that's actually July 1 at 0300 UTC, which is the term that we use.

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I think that this can be in the main article even if it doesn't only contain record-breaking seasons. First one thing, there is another section that don't only contain record-breaking seasons,

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A. Limit the tables to storms starting with the satellite data in the mid-1960s (1965 or 1966 forward). This would limit table inclusion to the 1965 or 1966 Atlantic Hurricane seasons onward.

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and lasted until August 6. Alex counts as a July storm, not August. FRANCES of 2004 formed on August 25, and lasted until September 8. Frances is an August storm, not September.)

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I would oppose a merger or deletion in favor of cleanup. You are right, thing like "furtherest southeast" ect... don't need to be included the list should be in a format like

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The Knowledge page for Nate says it is the sixteenth named storm of that season, that is the reason for the revert. So if there is an incongruity there, that is to blame.--

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To me, it should be recognized since it was issued as a potential tropical wave. Even though it was a post-tropical wave, it was still what led to what it is right now.

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Are we going to add Hurricane Nadine when it's gonna reach the 19 days point in the longest hurricane section? It's gonna be soon I think, during the course of next week.

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lists the gale diameter at 740 nautical miles (850 mi; 1,370 km), which, according to the source given in this article's table, falls short of Igor, Sandy, and Olga.

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I think it would be useful to add a section on accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) records to this article. These records are already addressed in the article for

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The seasonal activity can be cited to HURDAT but extreme latitudes and longitudes can probably go and unusual landfall location is even worse on the grounds of

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From visual inspection of a graph of the storm data (category, peak velocity, duration, minimum pressure) vs the date, the lull between two seasons seems to be

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Doesn't matter, the official agaency (NHC) calls them hurricanes, not tropical cyclones. The current name is best, it is sort of hard to explain it any more.

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This is too much to trim down and summarize, so I'm placing it here. Below is the table before my edits. Below that is a list of what I changed and why.

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before Fay of 2014 was Emily of 1987, which constitutes a lower landfall frequency than both the Azores and Cape Verde, despite the steering currents. --

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The columns for "total storms" and "tropical storms" are the same, since only tropical storms count towards the total. One of them should be removed.

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Lee is tied with Maria because there was a tropical storm added before it in the post season. All your changes for 2011 are wrong because of that.--

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C. Full inclusion of all of the Atlantic Hurricane seasons since 1850 on the lists. (This would likely push newer entries off the "fewest" list).

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There are parts of this article that imply that x hurricane fits x record because of x. In other words I want editors to draw their eyes to...

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6. The same pattern does not continue. This leaves the second-earliest R, or 17th, storm blank. That needs to be figured out and populated.

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If the purpose of this table is to show the record number of storms TRACKED during a given month, then the title needs to reflect that.

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That kind of reasoning is why the articles should be merged. We should not have exact duplicates of information in separate articles. —

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Lastly, this stood out because it said "September 7, 2005 (06z)

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I think "month of naming" would fit best, then. Omar is included in the count; it formed on August 31 but was named on September 1.

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the climatological onset (of the next season) after 31 March seems sharper that the decay (of the previous season) before 1 April.

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Hey guys I was wondering what some formation extremes were in the Atlantic. Specifically the most SW forming TS in the Atlantic

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argued with my inserting Hurricane Nate (2011) in the runner up spot for 15th, claiming Nate was the 16th in the season. On

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In Tropical cyclogenesis, a subsection noting when more than 2 named storms have formed in a single day (2020 & 1893)?

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2. 2011 Maria for some reason has the old earliest record for the N (14th) storm row. Same situation as above, removed it.

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Easiest way to do this is take the advisory number and divide it by 4. For the latest advisory that would give 20.25 days.

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Please do not simply revert this; I may be wrong but there's no chance the version that's being reverting to is right.--

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my initial edit including 2024 as the most active season for this exact reason, but I see that it was added again by

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For example, Ginger (1971) may have existed for 27.75 days, but - according to what I understand from the text on

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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And I agree with Tim above. Why is there a "Next" column? It makes no sense and should be removed. Thanx!!!

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total storms in the early 20th century which are not included. Here are my proposals to remedy this situation:

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rare landfall locations (Delta 05 in Morocco, Vince, and don't forget we have broader location articles like

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https://web.archive.org/web/20150830020411/http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/2005/VINCE/track.dat

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I changed Hurricane Sandy's number to ≥65.6 (billion) to match the amount on other articles mentioning it.

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Sure, if they reach hurricane status; but there are also numerous tropical storms listed on this page :)

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I think that we should definitely revise this subject as many individual Hurricane pages (for example

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article, it was the most intense category 4 Atlantic Hurricane on record. This should be added here.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20091116093857/http://www.imd.gov.in/section/nhac/dynamic/bestpara.xls

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Because we like to make the list consistent with other lists the list is expanded to include 10.

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It was a really strong category 5 that a lot of people think was at least 180 miles per hour...

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If there are no objections then I will be reinstating the Bermuda section to the article as per

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It seems like this article serves as a more comprehensive one specifically for records, whereas

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Alex is tied with whichever is listed as most intense for june, with a pressure of 946 mbar.--

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page, most of the storms have so far set records for the earliest formation by storm number.

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http://www.webcitation.org/6pyRtzaxP?url=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL052005_Emily.pdf

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Actually, the current name is more accurate since they are called hurricanes in this basin.

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That article is better, more appropriately named, and contains much the same information.

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and related subjects on Knowledge. To participate, help improve this article or visit the

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formation dates for January, February and March. So that is what I propose as a change.

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Earliest / Latest formation: anti-pivot at 1 April seems more logical than at 1 January

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Which was larger by gale-force (tropical storm-force winds) diameter - Olga or Sandy?

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I've gone ahead and changed it back. Not sure who changed it in the first place. ~

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all contradict each other. From what I understand, it seems Sandy was the largest

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Sorry. I must have glanced at the second column of the table. I feel dumb. Sorry.

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Seasonal activity - What is the cutoff for the min/max activity for the tables?

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records section which seems fairly long and in-definite, and is under-sourced.

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List of Atlantic hurricane records#Earliest formation records by storm number

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Ophelia, I've removed 2011 Ophelia and kept the unnamed storm in its place.

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based on numbers of storms), the more atypical, outlying, extraordinary and

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Given this article is slowly being pruned away (it's the rump article of

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Earliest formation of north Atlantic tropical cyclones by storm number

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Whereas for January, February and March the table list records for the

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Source A gives a list of the 5 most destructive hurricanes in History.

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Hurricanes is the general term for tropical cyclones in the Atlantic.

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is the 3rd verified oldest person in the world... it is tied down to

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table entitled "Longest duration". We could do with clarity on e.g.:

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misleading. The distinction may be somewhat technical, but wouldn't

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Should the Great Hurricane of 1780 be on 1-Minute Windspeed Records?

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U.S. NOAA Coastal Service Center - Historical Hurricane Tracks Tool

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Misread/misunderstood some of the text of the article. Stupid me.

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now it is October 2, 2012 21:00+ UTC that makes it 20 days now. -

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a storm. At minimum, it should be listed on the records page.

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I dont think it should be acdded without an official source. -

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tags on this page, but the references will not show without a

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And that's all. Feel free to leave feedback if you want to.

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onward. (Inclusion criteria would be 20th century onward).

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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size, so that is clearly not the same as intensity alone.

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Isnt alpha 2020 the most easternformed tropical cyclone?

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Would like to see INFLATION ADJUSTED damage estimates.

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this change; hope this addresses your concern. Cheers.

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who may not be aware of these concerns. Courtesy ping

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