Talk:List of Islamist terrorist attacks/Archive 2

3267:, claiming it as an Islamic terrorist attack, when it was not. It was a criminal action taken by a man who so happened to be an Arab Muslim. The aim of the hostage taking was for him to get his ex girlfriend to have charges against her dropped. There was discussion in the media claiming it to be a terrorist action, especially amongst commentators from USA, but it was proven definitively later on, and agreed to by everyone on Knowledge, that it was not a terrorist action. So this does not belong here. Now, if we were to have a list of Islamic criminal actions that were mistakenly thought to be terrorist actions, it could belong there. Yes, he was a radical Muslim. But it fits no current definition of terrorism. If in the future the definition of terrorism changes to mean any criminal action by someone of the Muslim faith, then, yes, it would be terrorism, but I sincerely hope that we never get that far into racism that that becomes a reality. A lot of people get confused about what terrorism really means, especially given that using current definitions of terrorism, people like Nelson Mandella, Che Guevera, Vladimir Lenin and Fidel Castro were all terrorists, and I think that it is important that we don't put people into lists like this who were not regarded as terrorists per the then agreed definition of terrorism. A criminal is not a terrorist, even if he happens to be Muslim, even if he happens to be an Arab Muslim, even if he happens to be a radical Arab Muslim, and not even if the Prime Minister of the country pretends that he is a terrorist just so as to curry favour with USA. He is a terrorist if he is performing an act of terror for a political aim. Getting your girlfriend busted out of jail is not a terrorist action. 3226:

terror and islamism, respectively nationalism is not mentioned at all. i have the feeling you merely go onto the source site, press CTRL+F, type in the terms "islamist" and "terror" and if nothing or only one of it pops up it immediately does not qualifies for this list. but this is just not right and has nothing to do with original research at all. i dont just conclude anything else by myself, than what the articles literally claim. you just insinuate something i dont do.i am not original researching. and yes i read the original research WP page, but it never says(though it is apparently what you claim here) the exact words has to be mentioned to fulfill conclusion of C. it says "A and B, therefore C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published the same argument in relation to the topic of the article." and in these cases the sources definetly draw a connection between a and b. so either you claim original research also includes what i mentioned above which you claim , that the excact phrases terms and classifications also need to be given but then malik you have to edit the page of original research please, or you claim the sources as cnn are bringing up false connections and cnn andthe other sources are not reliable. i dont try to be cocky but put the points into the fitting light. so no og and no unverifiable sources. as soon there are doubts about the incidents allright. dont put them on this list. but there are no doubts or concerns even at the farest sight regarding the bangladeshi atheist and blogger attacks. greetings.

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merely there is no "source" who proves it. WRONG. there is none who has the ultimate "power" to say this was a terror attack or this was not, BUT THE INCIDENT ITSELF. if is foolish to say only because nobody mentions the specific word "terror" in an article about 9/11 it is none. a terror attack is ONLY a word. a word that describes and combines a violent incident to achieve an ideological goal. we cannot expand the name of this list to lets say "list of islamist murders, bombings, stabbings, killings, shootings, hackings, kidnappings, hijackings, beatings and slicings"..... it is just bounded together in one word. TERRORISM. it is like to establish a list of lets say "murders of journalists", and then on the news it says a journalist was killed, he was stabbed to death in front of his house. The "undemocratic group against journalism" claimed the responsibility for the incident. but then one does not put the incident on the list of "murdered journalists" merely because the term "murder" was not said in the news, though it clearly was one. this is just absolutely incorrent and pure bigotry. the incident has to qualify itself fot criteria A and B that means what the incident is about. Not what some journalist say or not say. this is all i have to say, and i actually dont know why it needs to be said, since it is just all common logic and logical in itself. i wont resist to put the deleted incidents who qualify for both criterias back on the list. please engage in any comment.

2951:"Our policies on Verifiability and Original research do not permit us to substitute our judgment for that of reliable sources on this matter, and our guideline says those sources should be on this page, not other pages."yep again no original research. i never judged by myself about an incident and conluded that it was, lets say one with an islamist backround eventhough it also could have been a "normal" murder. but all sources i used clearly stated that it were, referring to the last added cases, all islam critical bloggers and activists who have been murdered by islamic militants, so what does this have to do with Originial research, when i just took a normal verifiable source? the sources clearly indicated that it was no "normal" assault because they wanted to rob his pocketmoney, but a killing due to the activism. if they kill them because they dont like the things they say it is a terror attack, because the murderers want to achieve an ideological goal. and in these cases it were islamic goals. that is it. killing to shut their atheist/secular mouths = islamist terrorism. idk what one can argue about this, it is not me who writes this but the sources themselves. and i have to correct you, you dont always have to add an source on this site, but it needs to be sourced. and if a source is a link to the specific terror attack article(which itself is sourced) then it is a source as well. have a look on 3601:

terror attack some dont" but what sort of consensus is this? there was no actual shaare of arguments or detailed explanation of the incident. there was never argued about the flag or the alliance between the hostage taker and isis. nothing, just Nothing about it! there is nothing over, just mister sneeze and some others saying that (lol what an irony) others say it was no terror attack. not even saying why or explaining. sorry but this is not how this works , by this way of working you could apply this pattern to literally every islamist terror attack even 9/11 or charlie hebdo, since there are always some "experts" who have doubts because this and that. but this does not mean that the incidents may not be sheduled as islamist terror attacks. where will we end up if this way of working takes overhand? no there is no consensus that it is unclear wether it was a terror attack or none, at all. i am still waiting for the explanation of terror attack expert mister sneeze what the flag was about or how he classifies the declared alliance of the hostage taker with isis, since these points are not explained in the sydney hostage crisis talk page nowhere.

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article talks about a violence incident lets say a seperatist group killed an "enemy" (let it be a blogger against the seperatism movement) then it is a terror attack, even if the news agency does not uses the term terrorism but the incident itself qualifies as such. you see the pattern here? a terror attack is no terror attack when someone mentions the word terror attack in a report, speech or news article but if the incident itself is a terrorattack by its way and intention. that is the thing. and killing a blogger because of an ideology is a terror attack. do you want me to contact the interior ministry of bangladesh to ask about it or cnn and the other news agencies and ask them if they would talk about "terror" eventhough it clearly is a terror attack? it is just a word a term. the sources clearly indicate the attacks as terror attacks with an islamist backround. just take the second source for the rajib haider murder, that even states the killers were linked to al quaida. the sources display the incident as islamist terror attacks.

3224:? it is no original research malik. regarding the "reliable source" you brought up, i think cnn is pretty at the high end site if it comes to verifiability and reliability. and furthermore the articles claim it was an islamist terror attack. you probably refer to the "Synthesis of published material" in which you draw a line from A to B and conclude C by yourself. yet this is allright if you do and the article does it as well, and here in these cases the sources are also doing it. it is actually the only thing they do when saying there already have been several incidents by islamic extremists and this time it was an attack as well announced by islamists and that religious fundamentalism is a big issue in bangladesh. it is literally a+b=c. it is just not written each time "the following incident is officially classified by our directing journalists as so-called "islamist terror"". But all the sources indicate and identfy and hence discuss the incidents as islamist terror. if a racist seperatist group kills a "problematic" journalist-: --> 1016:. Hamas is not a government because they do no represent a recognized country. It explicitly aims to destroy a legitimate country by attacking its civilians, and so did the PLO. This is not at all like the Boston Tea Party, where nobody died btw. That is the definition of a terrorist attack and it is for political, if not (overtly) religious aims. However, it is for religious aims because, for instance, they do not aim attacks at Jordan, Lebanon and Syria where they are held in refugee camps. Why is this? Because they are already Muslim countries. In addition, even if you don't want to include the rocket attacks on Israel, quite clearly killing athletes at olympic games and hijacking airplanes are terrorist attacks, perpetrated by Muslims against civilians. When does Muslim because Islamist? These should be included 379:

for inclusion on lists and I think it would be useful here. Many of the items on the list even now suffer from an extreme lack of sourcing. For instance, most of the recent Syrian ones are so routine that there's no continuing coverage of them and no investigation. Each of the 3-6 sides in the Syrian conflict may have an opinion on who did it and why, but no one really knows, and then the day after they drop it because there was another one. If we require the entries on this list to be independently notable to the point where they can support their own Knowledge articles we will avoid a lot of discussion about incidents which lack sufficient sourcing to understand what happened. Thus I'm soliciting everyone's thoughts: Require entries to have a stand-alone article? No? Something else?—

2948:"As several editors indicated in the References section above, incidents in the list should have reliable sources that indicate the attack was both Islamist and terrorist." and i agree 100% with you on this one. the incidents need to be verifiable and fitting into the needed categories. i never added an incident and a source in which it did not become clear that the listed incident was a terror attack with an islamist backround. i was even absolutely confused that you had an issue with the sydney hostage crisis, since it just fitted absolutely both criterias. original research would be to not mention the incident because one might assume(original researching) it was done by a deranged person without an actial islamist backround. so it is actually the other way around. 3559:

explain the jihadi flag that was pressed against the window, what else than islamism was the purpose of it?? you mister sneeze dont engange into any discussion of certain points, just distracting but dont say what the flag thing for example was about. and i read the discussions of the talkpage of the sydney hostage crisis very well. but so far the evidence is that the hostage cisis was an islamist terror attack. original research would be the other way around, og would mean to say it was no islamist terror attack because . the facts to this moment point out to an islamist terror attack. it definetly should remain on this page because it just fits into both criteras. the points Epeefleche mentioned have my full agreement.

114:" This is a stupid article to have, but if we're going to have it, at least that criterion is objective and can be used to objectively retain or remove material. Your first proposed criterion is not tenable because even Islamists do things for various reasons other than Islamic religious or political causes, e.g. if their country is occupied and they're engaged in a military action against the occupying forces. Your second is pretty much fine. The acts must be terrorist as well, so e.g. attacks on military targets by military groups don't count even if done by Islamists and even if called terrorism by the targets, e.g. the Syrian or Chinese governments.— 698:

actions have been military in character rather than terrorist, so that it doesn't actually matter what their motives are for purposes of this list. That's why it's necessary to give specific examples rather than trying to argue by theory. It's not plausible that every action an Islamic group takes is for Islamic reasons. It's doubly not plausible that every attack against Israel by an Islamist group belongs on this list. Each must be considered on an individual basis. If you give one example, I'll show you what I mean. Also I don't want to work on a PLO list. This one is enough work already. You'll be able to figure it out eventually, I'm sure.—

2958:"I recommend (once again) that you read WP:Verifiability, which says that "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." " and here i agree with you again. i think the dispute is not that i dont source but rather that you claim the source i use is not verifiable. that is at least how after all it now looks to me, since you still dont display any specific incident and ony talk in general terms. so i am wondering why you question the verifiability of cnn or bbc? i am really curious about this. 1142: 2395: 2955:. the list of islamist terror attacks does not include any Direct quotations so far, nor any statements that are likely to be challenged(and the sydney hostage crisis is nothing to be challenged likely, or do you also believe 911 was an inside job? if you do then it would be original research...), nor it is about contentious material about living persons. so yes everything needs to be verifiable. on all incidents you need to be able to check, either by a source or an particular(itself referenced) wikipediarticle. 1358:″So you disagree with criterion (b) above that the attack should be motivated by perceived Islamic religious or political goals? Or do you think all terrorist attacks against Israel by Islamists are motivated by Islamic religious or political goals even when roughly equivalent acts by, e.g. the PLO or Abu Nidal are not? What criterion would you use to decide which attacks on Israel by Palestinian groups are appropriate, and what effect would that have on the general inclusion criteria?— 158:

it's OK to delete sections from talk page and accuse other editors of being apologists and vandals. If you think the criteria are too vague propose some better ones, but really, I think you're making too much out of one disruptive editor's opinions here. Also, it's my opinion that it's impossible to define criteria, which is why the list obviously should be deleted. Since it's not likely to be, at least we should have criteria we can check against sources, which we kind of do.—

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multiplied exponentially over the years. For example, there are a total of only eight incidents listed in the entire decade of the 1980s, but in 2015 alone there are well over 100. This seems very misleading. Plus, this gives the impression that the history of Islamist terrorist attacks began in 1980, which is entirely untrue. I have no idea how to improve this list, but I do feel it needs to be changed from its current format. What can be done to improve this list?

2271:) speaks of value laden labels yet, in this situation, it can be argued that Islamic is a more value laden label even than terrorist. Many Muslims roundly condemn terrorist action. Searches indicate about half the level of hits for "Islamist terrorism" and "Islamist terrorist" in comparison to searches on "Islamic terrorism" and "Islamic terrorist". The Islamist terms have a far more specific meaning on a subject that is not representative of Islam. 4431: 31: 2495:

wounded in serial killing spree. After his arrest, authorities also claimed that Muhammad admitted that he admired and modeled himself after Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, and approved of the September 11 attacks. Most counterjihad pundits make a direct link to jihad. Yet most mainstream media sources, and the currrent article go to great lengths to avoid any connection to religion based terrorism. It is very similar to the killing spree of

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declared a terrorist attack by a national government if there is enough evidence to establish motive. Subject has told authorities that he is deeply religious islamist who murdered 4 as vengeance for lives lost in wars in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. Same editor is trying to claim that Seattle Times and CNN are not reliable sources and a serial killer of 4, including 2 LGBT in the name of militant Islamism is not notable.

4463:, could you engage here? News reports this morning are still quoting everyone from Obama down as saying the perpetrators "may have been" inspired by ISIL. I.e., speculation, still under investigation. An unnamed official claiming that one of the perpetrators posted to Facebook under a different name (apparently while simultaneously shooting people) is less than reliable. Give it time. Probably no more than a few days. 1324: 4502:"The attack is the deadliest Islamic State-inspired attack on American soil. Al Qaeda and other groups have carried out — or inspired — lethal assaults in the United States, but the Islamic State, which has a base of operations in Syria and Iraq, and carried out the attack on Paris that killed 130 people last month, has turned into a leading terrorism threat with spreading influence around the world." 4382: 3380: 1273: 1078: 3351:

attack. Go back 20 years ago and nobody would have even briefly considered this to be terrorist, as nothing about it looked like terrorism. But go back 20 years ago and terrorism was usually a domestic issue. This changing definition does confuse people sometimes, and that is why it is important to illustrate that that incident does not represent any version of a terrorist incident.

2225: 3804:, as individuals, in their full autonomy, and consequently, the projects, as a general rule, do not and should not consider as legitimate censorious demands by institutions, of any kind, political, commercial or voluntary claiming to represent those individuals, or making demands, which, in the community’s opinion, represent only their own interests" 3455:

disputes that he declared allegiance to a terrorist organization, or that the Prime Minister and head of ASIO declared it terrorism. There is RS support for it being treated as Islamist terrorism and highest-level-government support, so while not exclusively viewed that way, for cat purposes it should be reflected inter alia as Islamist terrorism.

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due to an alledged lack of source which might lead to the conclusion that the incident does not meet the two needed criterias A - Terror attack and B - Islamism; you are free to mention, research and discuss about it."Period. End of story." Otherwise your ragetalk here doesnt make any particular sense not even for you.

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motivation for a given attack 2) acts carried out by any group, whether called Islamist or not - where the stated motivation was an Islamist political or religious goal. I'm sure there are other inclusion criteria but those are the rough boundaries I'd say. So please, make a case here. - what are inclusion criteria?--

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is doing so by themselves is manipulative, when all that they/we are doing is to reflect consensus in the article page. Oh, and in real life, outside of Knowledge, consensus is established to a far greater level than is suggested on Knowledge. There was a coronial inquiry about it. That's pretty definitive.

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It's impossible to keep everything in a single page. Due to this huge debate is going on what to keep, what not to keep. When we visit the main page, every week we see some massacre or blast in Libya, Nigeria, Somalia. there are editors and administrators who try to keep minimum incidents and there

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Please name certain events that concern you, regarding alledged missing verification. As far as i can see every incident listed on thise page has a verifiable source or is innerlinked to a special page for the incident with further detail about it. Two criterias need to be met so that an incident can

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does apply. I don't see an article written up about incidences of American Terroist events listing the Boston Tea Party. As the old saying goes, "One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter." Hamas like the PLO in their actions against Israel are to free themselves. Be careful to consider that

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No, "others" don't disagree. One single editor, blocked mere hours after his previous block for violating a topic ban on India and Pakistan (and well on his way to AE regarding ARBPIA and the inevitable permaban), disagrees. Furthermore this editor not only refuses to engage on talk page, he thinks

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What you say is true, but then you can edit the introduction text a bit so it gets clear. there is no other way around this. people who are really interested in these terrorist attack understand why the list looks this way it does. one cant help people who just hace a brief look on and then conclude

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This does now seem to be a terrorist attack. Was it Islamist? We don't know, certainly not from the one reference included. "One of the attackers may have pledged loyalty to ISIL on Facebook under a different name", from one source, does not seem to be anything more than speculation. This attack

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I'm putting this in a sub-header, as it relates directly to the prior conversation. First off -- the issues are not completely the same, as pointed out above. Second point -- discussion on the overlap part is taking part there. Third point - Consensus can change. Fourth point - the old conversation

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this article claims he was murdered by extremists who stated they would kill him as soon as he comes back to bangladesh. furthermore the article claims a tweet of an islamist terror group reacting to the attack with "Target Down". saying it was no islamist terror attack , but it also could have been

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It seems that you try to troll here on this page arent you? You permanently talk about reliable source, yet you do not mention a single specific case in which you see a lack of reliable source. I can tell you, you probably will not find one. If you have a problem with a certain incident on this page

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Unless someone can depict a certain or even several incident he or she got a problem with, since it is aledgedly not verifiabile enough, is free to mention it in this discussion site or can look up the incident itself and bring in the found information that can lead to a, either letting the incident

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I keep seeing more and more additions to this list without many details being offered. I think each attack should be supplied with a reference as a verification that this event occurred. It shouldn't be difficult as military attacks usually get coverage in major newspapers. As it is now, much of the

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itself claims that: "Police dismissed initial suggestions that the driver, thought to be in his thirties, had shouted God is Great, saying they found a notebook in his vehicle with “incoherent, suicidal phrases” and: "officials said the incident in Dijon was “absolutely not a terrorist attack”, and

1750:, but I don't think I want to cite the definition per that policy. Nevertheless, using 'terrorism' poorly goes against a definition of 'terror'. Fears during the hostage situation wasn't that "intense" or "extreme", was it? One lone wolf didn't cause "extreme fear" under Oxford definition, did he? -- 697:

I understand that Hamas is an Islamist group, but that doesn't mean that every action they do is based on perceived Islamic religious or political goals. Since they participate in the governance of Gaza, a lot of what they do is more like state action for state purposes. Furthermore, many of their

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It occurred to me that we may want to limit inclusion on this list not only by requiring that an attack be (a) terrorist and (b) motivated by either perceived Islamic or political goals, but also by requiring that there be an existing Knowledge article on the attack. This is a widely used criterion

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Russia is Christian? That's new. Are you saying that because an estimated 44% is Christian? The only law I'm familiar with is the 1997 law that stated that Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and Judaism are important in Russian history. Should we impart your bias and ignore the struggle for independence

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The edit warring must stop. If needed I will request full protection. Please both of you cut it out. Focus on a discussion here about the inclusion criteria - for now I see two versions being promoted 1) acts perpetrated by groups that are called Islamists in Rs, regardless of the particulars of the

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The "sneaky" part is that there is already consensus over there, and this is merely a list. A list is merely meant to document what is agreed to in an existing article page. Thus, if they wish to add it here, they must first change it over there. Pretending that anyone removing it from this list

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the last source does not ultimately identifies tha attack as an islamist one, yet it is very likely. on this last one you could be right with original research . but instead of deleting all of it how about you or someone else does more research on it or puts the behind? anyway in this news article

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backround/goal. also islamist is a phrase everybody can understand or at least get information by google or wikipedia itself. it is not that "stiff" to "qualify" for this site. these two indicators needs to be given and hence you can add an incident on this site. no "official" source has to call it

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This case is being disputed by an editor who disagrees that someone who is self-identified Islamist who was convicted of bank fraud, most likely in support of terrorists in Somalia who says he is motivated by wars against Muslim countries is an islamist terrorist. Not every case in this list has be

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So you disagree with criterion (b) above that the attack should be motivated by perceived Islamic religious or political goals? Or do you think all terrorist attacks against Israel by Islamists are motivated by Islamic religious or political goals even when roughly equivalent acts by, e.g. the PLO

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Is it within the scope of WP to have a table, for example, of casualties of major earthquakes, etc., which table has a final line, for TOTAL casualties, that automatically sums the total number represented by the entire table? If no, does someone know why that would fall outside of WPs guidelines,

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What are you talking about. I am not picking of anything. There is an incident, and if the incident is a terror attack with an islamist backround then it qualifies for both needed crieterias. and by even mentioning my capital letters shows that you dont even care about what i write but rather mock

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This means that we cannot classify this an "islamic terror act". We don't even know if the perpetrator was muslim. I think he may be, since there wouldn't be the mentioning here if he wasn't, but the encyclopaedic style of Knowledge is not meant to challenge political correctness, but to reproduce

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While no one has raised the question of India, ONLY ONE ATTACK ON ISRAEL IS INCLUDED and seems the article just excludes it altogether, until someone will proves without a shadow of doubt attacks it has been maid on an Islamic basis. Although it's a good thing Knowledge seeks to be idealistic with

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I think you misunderstood. This article, as previously mentioned by other editors fails NPOV. Second, it's not accurate in assuming all terrorist attacks are related. And, third, it makes WP a hate site like the one that NC shooter went to to get riled up against African-Americans; which also had

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There is consensus. consensus is that given the facts and information the attack was an terror attack with an islamist backround. no reason do doubt it. please put the incident back on page until no clear evidence is given to support the conclusion that it was no islamist terror attack. spreading

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Hi, Malik. I've raised my view in both places, as discussion is ongoing in both places. And the issue is not precisely the same in both places. As you say, first of all, consensus can change. Also, new facts can come to the fore. As has been the case here. For example, I am not clear that any

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Thanks Malik. It was debated on the talk page (and in real life) some 6 months ago. They even had a coronial inquiry about it, at least part of which focused around whether or not it was a terrorist attack. Just because something a criminal act was done by a Muslim does not make it a terrorist

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it could be put onto the list(if it would exist) called "nationalist terror attacks against journalists" as well as if radical muslim extremists kill a blogger and hence the incident can be put onto the "list of islamist terror attacks" both is definetly correct, eventhough both times the phrases

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because there are several times when some people, but mostly malik edited and deleted content i want to start the discussion what should be put onto this list and what not, though it is actually pretty clear but apparently not clear enough. i just neglect the fact that common courtesey failed the

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malik it seems that you have a problem with the word "terrorism". you have a problem that the sources dont explicitly talk of terrorism, but one have to keep in mind that terrorism is just a term that contents all sorts of violence attacks to achieve a certain political reason. like i said if an

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if an incident is a terror attack, which is defined and drafted above it is also important that its goal is an islamistic one. that means the terror attack had the purpose to achieve a islamist purpose by its violence, may it be to intimidate critics of islam, to establish a new government or to

746:. We need to have sources saying that attacks are motivated by Islamic religious or political reasons in order to be able to include them on this list. Terrorist groups aren't usually shy about sharing their reasons. We can't just assume that everything they do is motivated by Islamic goals.— 4298:

For pedagogic reasons, the itemised list certainly favours people hoping to foster views hostile to Islams. If, for example, an itemised list of every single Civilian death or attack by American military or American people were made, it would dwarf this Islamic terror list. I think it's safe to

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It is over? the last entry regarding it was made today... and guess by whom by mister sneeze himself. how can this be over? and i could not read that it was "consensus" anyhwere to say it was no islamist terror attack at all. there was just a guy who said something like "some people see it as a

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said of Monis two months after the event: "He said at the time that he undertook the siege that he was inspired by ISIL. Had the flag, all of that sort of thing. Yes, I think he was a terrorist." That bears directly on the discussion elsewhere, about terrorism, and also on the issue here, about

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IF criteria A+B are given than the incident can be put onto the list. normally nobody should have an issue with this, since that is just what the list is about. now there might be individuals who claim that the killing of a bangladeshi bloger because he criticized islamiism is no terror attack,

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Mister Sneeze A Lot says there is no reason to call the sydney hostage taking an islamist terror attack. the point is, it is qualified as an islamist terror attack not because the attacker was a muslim, no but because the attack itself had an islamist backround. for instance how do you want to

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Others have debated whether it is lone wolf terrorism, or terrorist-organization-inspired terrorism, or terrorist-organization-directed-terrorism, but the dispute has largely been about the type of terrorism. And Islamist is clearly the flavor. Even lone-wolf terrorism is terrorism, and nobody

2846:- a terror attack is " violent attack by a groupp, organization, or individual to achieve a certain, political, religious or ideological goal". that can be everything from a suicide bomb, a mass killing, a chemical attack, a stabbing or just a beat up. a "violent incident to achieve a goal". B 2494:

is absent from this list. It's pretty much a textbook case of a man who converted to Islam and joined the Nation of Islam who along with his seventeen-year-old partner, Lee Boyd Malvo, carried out the Beltway sniper attacks of October 2002, killing at least 10 people, plus another 14 killed or

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What kind of bullshit IS that?! Hamas's SELF-PROCLAIMED goal is not to "free themselves", but to destroy Israel and establish an Islamic state on its territory -- so this DOES make them an Islamic terrorist group! And which of the Founding Fathers had ever called for the destruction of Great

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I don't believe it belongs on this list. This was an action by nationalist guerillas who happen to be Muslim. Their goal was to establish the independence of Chechnya. How is that an Islamic goal? The source given calls the terrorists "Chechen separatists," so certainly doesn't support the

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I don't think we need a statement from the group claiming Islamic motives, but I do think we need a statement from some reliable source attributing Islamic motives. One way to get this is by the group's making a statement. Another way is for historians or even journalists making declarative

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You might note that I've been removing items from this list for over a week and no one has contested a single one of my removals except for that one editor, who took less than four hours to get himself reblocked for another week. There are obviously a lot of people watching my edits and not

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While I don't agree with some requests above to remove this article altogether, I think it's clear to see that it is becoming quite a cumbersome list and terribly lengthy in its current format. And it will probably only get worse. It also gives a false impression that terrorist attacks have

3775:. Besides the list here can be moved to their correct category, as I mentioned above: Hezbollah terrorism, Al Qaeda terrorism, etc. Before you say no, would WP have such an article listing crimes by Black Americans? We don't want to encourage the crazies by having such a misleading article. 3134:

This is a list of Islamist terrorist attacks, not a list of "Suspected Islamic militant" attacks. If the police say they are investigating motives, then motives have not been definitely established, have they? This source seems to be a blog or news aggregator - also not sure if this is a

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Excuse me but any attack by a group called Islamist Jihad (as in Palestinian Islamic Jihad) is obviously an Islamist terror attack and must be included, even if you have a ridiculous position on Hamas. I am hoping someone else will do this since there are so many. They can be found at

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Again, how is this different from the Canadian terrorist attack? Violence, ideologically motivated, deliberately targeting civilians, intended to spread a message through fear. In fact the Sydney attack was more blatant, e.g. Monis' demands for live interviews. What would make this

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When this page was created at that moment it was correct, but nowadays almost every week there is a notable terrorist incident in Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Kashmir, even in Australia siege, Charlie Hebdo, Russia school massacre, Doha bombing, Afghanistan blasts, Suicide attacks.

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incorrect info. The first two reasons are sufficient in of themselves. What is the value of this article exactly? We should remove all such articles: against Jews, Zionists, neocons, Hindus, Israel, etc. The are incorrect for similar reasons and are used by hate Groups.--

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reiterate that, to be a serious information resource, Knowledge must absolutely resist partisan or nationalist interests in conflicts One of the points of having an information resource is to give the lie to phobic rhetoric, not merely to reflect and feed it.

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last times, when wikipedia users just deleted content without any logic or actual reason and did not even started a discussion about several incidents. anyway here we go there are exactly 2 criterias of what an incident has to content for getting on this list.

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you are a complete bias bashing about the united states, to get your worldview onto the internet NOT in wikipedia. you are the biased neglecting the facts and cannot or do not want to face the reality. this is wikipedia no usa and 9/11 conspiracy blog website.

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those criteria are too vague. As you can see from the edit warring others disagree. I haven't yet formed an opinion but would appreciate your more clear statement of criteria and linkage of same to RS that build similar lists. So plz bring evidence... Thanks

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such sources included when I removed it. One reference that includes a report of an unnamed official claiming that one of the perpetrators had posted to Facebook under a different name, by itself, certainly wasn't a reliable source for "Islamist". Thanks,

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I think that we have to include all attacks by this three groups because they cite islamic reasons for their attacks and the PLO does not! But I think the PLO should still have also a extra List with their attacks against Isreal on their article

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Debating this here is a bit of a sneaky way to do it. There is already consensus at the main page, so the correct way to do things is to debate it there. Debating it here, which only a few people are following, is not an honest way to do it.

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why is it no reliable source? it mentions the attack and points out to several media articles about it, stating the conclusion of an islamist terror attack, particularly the last one that shows that islamists claimed to be behind the attack.

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Well, if you're uninterested in following the basic principles of Knowledge, perhaps you should start your own website and then you can make lists of whatever you want. Everything here has to be verifiable by citations to reliable sources.—

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did you read the article malik? the article clearly mentions the apprehended two killers were in an islamic school and followed an order by a third person due to the "religious duty", if that is no islamism than 9/11 was it neither.

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stay on the page, or deletion of the incident. Everyone is encouraged to participate and discuss about certain events in case it does not meet the two above mentioned criterias for getting listed on this site. That should be it

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decision, and that most of the attackers cry a religious prayer the moment of attack. I can continue in citing a few opinions of Palestinian researchers who study the issue, and link these three groups directly to an Islamic

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doubts, distracintg and believing in conspiracy theories as mister sneeze like claiming the US is behind the decision of the australian government to count this incident as an islamist terror attack is just mere bias wrong.

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You originally stated that there "aren't sources directly calling the hostage crisis a terrorist act". I have furnished some (e.g. "Monis' long history of political statements clearly made it an act of terrorism",

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Reuters is reporting that ISIS has claimed credit for the attack. LA Times and AP have reported the woman had publicly sworn allegiance to ISIS leader. The workplace argument story has been denied and debunked.

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Russia has traditionally been Christian, and Christianity (specifically, Eastern Orthodox Christianity) is still the biggest religion there -- so yeah, Russia IS still Christian in the same way that the USA is!

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The entry "January 11, 2015", the attack on the "Hamburger Morgenpost" newspaper is not clarified yet. It could also be a copycat crime. This list should only contain attacks in which the offender is known.

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Wait, I have more to say. Man Haron Monis is labeled a terrorist, but does that make the event a terrorist act? Saying so without certain verification is unjust labeling and would violate the principles of

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do not get to interpret the words of an author or commentator, to infer that s/he meant that the intention behind an attack was terrorism. The source itself needs to explicitly call the attack a terrorist

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The editor above is now blocked, but I have at least broken the rather long "2010s" into 2 sections "2010 – 2014" & "2015 – 2019" on this same page. This should make updating a bit easier. This page

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Picking one from column A and one from Column B does not constitute a reliable source, just as typing comments in capitals does not provide a stronger or more compelling argument. Just a louder one.

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said of Monis two months after the event: "He said at the time that he undertook the siege that he was inspired by ISIL. Had the flag, all of that sort of thing. Yes, I think he was a terrorist."

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or Abu Nidal are not? What criterion would you use to decide which attacks on Israel by Palestinian groups are appropriate, and what effect would that have on the general inclusion criteria?—

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Really? Is that a universally accepted opinion or just yours? Why doesn't the wikipedia article about it say more on the issue? Or do you have other sources? The one you used totally fails

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Lists of attacks are being maintained for the major terrorist groups already, so this list could be turned into a list of lists. Some context - are attacks increasing? would be most helpful.

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I don't have a problem with the word "terrorism", Joobo, I have a problem with editors who think their own judgment is superior to that of Knowledge's policies and guidelines. Have you read

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I have now reverted this edit. But I think this qualifies as islamic terrorism. These "Chechen separatists," want to be indepentend because Russia is Christian and they are Muslims!--

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Is is WP's intention to become such a hate site? It should not be. The views of the editors who are full of hate of Islam and Muslims should not be taken into account on this article

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at all, and quotes the police as saying "We are working on several possible motives behind the killing." In other words, the source does not say it was an Islamist terrorist attack.

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the linked cnn article mentions the blogger was murdered by islamist terrorist because of his secular activism. i cannot see any OG in here neither a lack of credibility for cnn.

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was a bank robber, not a terrorist, but did he cause intense fear on victims and/or hostages? I'm uncertain of whether he did demand live interviews. By the way, don't use the film

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once again, applying your own definition of terrorism. It seems to me the question of whether it was a terrorist attack is not settled, but there have been several discussions at

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are people who try to keep maximum incidents. every Islamist terrorist attack which has an article in Knowledge deserves to be here. But then this page will become very lengthy.

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This is completely wrong, this arab-muslim conducted an islamist terror attack. YOU even say " Yes, he was a radical Muslim. But it fits no current definition of terrorism."

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Don't have time right now to read your other bullet point sources, but as to your last bullet point - we do not include material because it was "likely". Read , please.

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remember criteria A terroristic attack(violence to achieve certain political goal) and B islamist backround is needed. so lets see and please have a decent look on this.

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sense to have their acts be considered as a common conspiracy. By compiling the current misleading list, we are only encouraging hate and violence against Muslims by

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the incident was, how you like it the best if you dont want to transfer the word murder under the term of terrorism by yourself, called by word "Islamist extremists"

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Can you give an example of such an attack against Israel where Islamic motives are cited? I'll leave you to work out your PLO list on your own if you don't mind.—

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killed 3 men in Seattle and one in New Jersey. Self-identified jihadist justified attacks as "vengeance for lives are lost every day... Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan"

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The article is listed chronologically. I'm fine with that. However, there are too many flag icons, so can we categorise events into countries or continents? --

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to continue to wave their hands and make noise about what "everybody knows"? (Examples available on request, or use Ctrl-F.) In short, will this list follow

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In the current situation the article includes 37 attacks of in India, the majority of which have no attached articles. This is being done, while the ongoing

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This wp site contains a list of islamist terror attacks. All incidents listed are sourced or even better, have an own particular article about themselves.

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to remind you that you still have to include many articles which fit every critera to be included. Or will you ever add a terrorist attack in this List?

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the attack was identified as a terror attack by pointing out the intention of the attack and the link of the attackers to an islamist group. qualifies.

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I thought that might have happened, that's why I added that explanatory note, but perhaps I should have included that in my first post to begin with.

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Wojtowicz wasn't politically/ideologically motivated, and didn't aim to create widespread fear by claiming that he had planted bombs across the city.

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You should probably rephrase this in a yes/no format. All attacks should have RS that indicate they are both terrorism and Islamist to be included.

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I don't see any reason why the page should be so limited. Was that when 'Islamist terrorist attacks' first became notable? Should it then be called

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that the Sydney attack belongs on this page when the editors of that page have already decided it shouldn't be categorized as a terrorist attack. —

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or at the very LEAST mentioned at the bottom to also refer to. Also WHY are the recent beheadings, attacks on Yazidis and other Kurds not included?

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that on the page first before replying to you did I, silly me! I was a bit distracted by some unsourced entries, many of which I have now removed.

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about my writing style. so much about your importance regarding this discussion. if you dont have to say anything towards it then better let it be.

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who is a self-described jihadist who called 4 murders which resembled random crimes rather than terrorist attacks justified killings Discussion?

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that describe Muhammad as an Islamist or a terrorist? Keep in mind that what self-appointed "counterjihad pundits" write in their blogs are not

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criteria A terror attack - "hostage taking" criteria B islamism - this individual forced hostages to press the jihad flag against the windows.

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as there is consensus, both on Knowledge and in real life, including a coronial inquiry, that it was NOT a terrorist action. Joobo broke

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The police certainly treated it as terrorism; and the type of terrorism was clearly Islamist. As did officials. Australia’s top spy boss

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in adding it 3 times, and it was reverted twice, but this page was protected, by accident, in a form that has this incorrectly added.

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for their own aims and belong in their specific terror lists; and, one is not known to conspire with the other. Therefore, it makes

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Grand, so - that'll be multiple reliable sources, then, when added to the article (please do so), so it should be retained. There

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complaining, since they chime in here and there. You're choosing the wrong place to play the voice of sanity and balance.—

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11309311/Man-rams-van-into-Christmas-market-in-western-France.html

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On 15 January 2015, Australia's Treasurer Joe Hockey declared the siege in Sydney's Martin Place as a terrorist incident.

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I'm not particularly attached to this categorisation; I simply feel it accurately reflects the nature of the attack. --

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A tabular form would help tremendously, especially one which included death toll sums or at least a total death toll.

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Don't accuse me of edit-warring, oh Jedi. There's nothing for me to cut out. The stated inclusion criteria are: "

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its not wikipedias business to form peoples minds. one can simply help it by possibly edit the introductin a bit,

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Abbott's views are reliable? Journalists haven't called the situation a terrorist act. What about politicians? --

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state clearly their goal is to "destroy the State of Israel and establish a sovereign, Islamic Palestinian state"

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Thank you. I was under the impression that the list was meant to be only post 1980 based on the lead saying:

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that identify the incident as a terrorist attack and the perpetrators as Islamists, or is it acceptable for

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About removing unsourced entries, when should one remove it as opposed to using a citation needed thingy?

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You can't see what the problem is? The problem is lack of sources, here, in this article, as required by

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something else like a "normal robbery" would be original research neglecting the facts given. qualifies

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when noting their Islamism and terrorist acts that are very similar to the American revolutionary war.

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Closing for lack of a neutral question. If the nominator wishes to open a new RfC, please first read

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I suppose you can if you really want to, but it will remain publicly visible in this page's history.

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in order to clarify the difference between Islamic faith, civilization, people, and the ideology of

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Joobo, please read carefully. This debate was already conducted, and it's over. You can't create a

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I'm actually amazed this hasn't been done before now - present title is clearly in breach of NPOV.

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Zürich to Tel Aviv and Austrian Airlines Caravelle OE-LCU, „Steiermark” from Frankfurt to Vienna

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in India. Their main goal is also pseudo-nationalist, seeking independence only as a "holy war".

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template. You're the one who asked for the protection in the first place. It can live at the

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Ive read this too. Since then of course the incident does not belong on this list anymore.

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as something. it is sufficient if an incident qualifies by fitting to those two criterias.

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branch, who's ultimate goal is to "...eliminating and destroying westren civilization...".

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of islamic terrorism by denying the islamic connection! No attack is for you islamically

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don't describe an attack as both terrorist and Islamist, it doesn't belong on the list.

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public/expert opinions on issues. Hence i will try to delete the 2014 Nancy shooting.

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Surely the prime minister himself describing the attacker as a terrorist is sufficient?

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More 'senior'?, I suppose so, but rather more 'experienced'. Editing since Sept. 2009.

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which I presumed implied that the list started at 1980 intentionally for some reason.

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content on this page could be challenged because these claims are unsupported.

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on Knowledge, and it is not permitted. We make determinations on the basis of

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Just because it involves Hamas doesn't mean it's an act of Islamic terrorism.

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No, don't put words in my mouth. There is Islamic terrorism, but also read

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went to such websites to build up hate of African-Americans before he took

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and realise that there are many articles about islamic terrorist attacks!--

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Did you read what I wrote above? Even the very first point?? First off --

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that indicate the attack was both Islamist and terrorist. Our policies on

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Wikimedia Projects serve the Information Needs of Individuals, Not Groups

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to classify terrorism. So we must rely on journalists and politicians. --

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Some people deny global warming, but that doesn't make it any less real.

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2. Include all attacks against Isreal by the 3 groups, which I mentioned

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There were a number of Islamist terrorist attacks in the (mid) 1970s.

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said there were lessons to be learned from this "brush with terrorism".

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Regarding Israel, perhaps it's important to mention a few basic facts:

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Islamic terrorism on Israel, It should do so with everything equally...

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Islamic terrorism (the two overlap, but are not complete parallel). --

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have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to

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the archiving was automatic. I switched it to archive after 1 year.--

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Then every notable incident which has an article can be included.--

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ISIL is clearly an Islamist terrorist organization. Prime Minister

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Ali Muhammad Brown self-identified jihadist not a terrorist attack?

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Ashley Fantz, Pamela Brown and Aaron Cooper (September 16, 2014).

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as the faction behind terrorist attacks. The following section,

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described the attack as terrorism, and Monis as a terrorist; e.g.

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still serves as the major excuse for many of the attacks, and the

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The way I did looks embarrassing, and I don't like it archived. --

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http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/12/asia/bangladesh-blogger-killed/

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Also you can still help me with the PLO List! I am only an IP.--

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Whish to add entry : Boko Haram bomb kills 20 at bus station.

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The BBC pages do not call this an islamic or islamist attack.--

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have to provide a source, not you. If it's borderline, then a

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can define the man as terrorist. Other people say, otherwise,

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BBC News: French teacher invented Aubervilliers school attack

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Many RSs have referred to it as both Islamist and terrorism.

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four kinds of material absolutely required to have citations

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https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks

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should not be included, at least with just this reference.

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says those sources should be on this page, not other pages.

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Heres a list of 25000 Islamic attacks from 9/11 till today

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guidelines about how long a page should get before it is

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Islamic terrorism#Criticism of Islamic terrorist ideology

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The question for this RfC should be rewritten in a more

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are islamic terrorists. Also I think you should look at

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be sourced, unless it's obvious, i.e. "the sky is blue"

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Most Muslims wouldn't want to be associated with it so

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Achille Lauro hijacking '85 Abu Abbas, at that time?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Hamas#Hamas_Charter_.281988.29

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Islam_and_antisemitism#Hadith

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Article becoming too cumbersome, possibly misleading

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perhaps? Or is there another page covering pre–1980?

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I'll revisit this when consensus will be reached. --

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that dates to the break up of the Soviet Union, IP?

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While 4085:List of Islamist terrorist attacks since 1980 3802:Wikimedia projects exist to serve individuals 3499:Australian Security Intelligence Organisation 3439:Australian Security Intelligence Organisation 8: 2573:where the attack is identified as terrorist 1612:I try to not let politics steer my editing. 4876:Table with an automated sum/total function 4300: 3969:Why?, because no one has added them yet! ( 2321: 2111:The following is a closed discussion of a 1264:Protected edit request on 22 December 2014 1069:Protected edit request on 21 December 2014 4236:Knowledge Seigenthaler biography incident 1179:Can I erase this whole thread instead? -- 3934:Why are only post-1980 incidents listed? 3842:Bifurcate the page into different parts. 3437:the Director-General of Security of the 2731:I cannot see what the problem should be. 1956:One of the sources, used in the article 1921:but then removed per other talk page. -- 1738:Labeling it as "terrorism" goes against 1330:The page's protection level and/or your 4908: 4238:for how much trouble hoax pages cause. 4212:for more info on when to remove edits. 3979:List of (non-state) terrorist incidents 2929:I recommend (once again) that you read 2453: 1971: 569:Category:WikiProject Terrorism articles 412:Category:WikiProject Terrorism articles 18:Talk:List of Islamist terrorist attacks 3715:the issues are not completely the same 2569:, every entry should have one or more 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 4349:BEARtruth89 has been 'sock-blocked'. 2418:. The problem isn't that CNN and the 1382:has a major religious aspect as well. 1152:for this alteration before using the 532:: What you should do to improve this 7: 4589:The following discussion is closed. 4050:Indents x 2 added above for clarity 2902:As several editors indicated in the 2222: 2130:The result of the move request was: 4883:Bob Enyart, Denver KGOV radio host 4616:2601:14C:0:F6E9:B4A6:ABC6:D6CA:F708 3737:Move to Delete this Article from WP 2676:. This means statements should be 1399:Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine 1391:Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine 408:Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine 90:stop edit war and focus on criteria 3854:So I suggest we divide this into 3757:. For example, the White Shooter, 2590:I agree as well. I just created a 2487:John Allen Muhammad DC Sniper case 2319:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ 2155:List of Islamist terrorist attacks 2046:List of Islamist terrorist attacks 374:Can we discuss inclusion criteria? 24: 3983:List of terrorist incidents, 1970 2634:2. The incident needs to have an 2151:List of Islamic terrorist attacks 1919:List of terrorist incidents, 2014 1917:Well, the incident was listed at 1746:policy. I re-read the definition 1380:Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts 1284:List of Islamic terrorist attacks 1089:List of Islamic terrorist attacks 4727:The discussion above is closed. 4429: 4380: 4232:'tag' (or "thingy") may suffice. 3378: 2393: 2223: 1793:as your only reliable source. -- 1354:Opening up the criteria question 1322: 1271: 1140: 1076: 720:terror attack they commit. Then 29: 3898:rather long, and has more than 3479:Talk:2014 Sydney hostage crisis 3317:Talk:2014 Sydney hostage crisis 3182: 2903: 2594:for this list based loosely on 1164:until an agreement is reached. 398:, because the terrorist groups 3973:) There may be a problem with 3959:06:32, 29 September 2015 (UTC) 3407:Please remove the link to the 3179:you just don't "get the point" 2599:Editnotice for lists of people 1690:that the man has mental issues 1030:13:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC) 213:This item was recently added: 1: 4903:10:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC) 4891:04:15, 21 December 2015 (UTC) 4869:20:33, 19 December 2015 (UTC) 4836:02:02, 16 December 2015 (UTC) 4822:08:53, 15 December 2015 (UTC) 4806:22:12, 14 December 2015 (UTC) 4783:21:46, 14 December 2015 (UTC) 4768:21:25, 14 December 2015 (UTC) 4753:16:16, 14 December 2015 (UTC) 4702:08:36, 29 November 2015 (UTC) 4682:08:34, 29 November 2015 (UTC) 4664:11:10, 28 November 2015 (UTC) 4642:04:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC) 4624:02:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC) 4334:23:03, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 4283:19:55, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 4096:about the size of this page. 3834:05:25, 7 September 2015 (UTC) 3042:Do you see a pattern here? — 2842:A the incident needs to be a 1931:03:54, 23 December 2014 (UTC) 1898:23:30, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1879:23:22, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1860:23:06, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1846:23:03, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1822:22:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1803:22:41, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1779:22:16, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1760:20:23, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1720:19:50, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1706:Just like in Canada. But the 1702:17:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1680:12:28, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1645:10:09, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1631:10:02, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1608:07:40, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1590:07:00, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1576:00:41, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1562:00:28, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1541:00:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1525:23:49, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 1499:11:16, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 1395:Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades 1348:18:47, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1317:13:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC) 1248:21:42, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 1234:21:37, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 1219:21:31, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 1204:21:28, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 1189:21:25, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 1174:21:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 1135:21:23, 21 December 2014 (UTC) 873:Westgate shopping mall attack 4736:Aubervilliers attacked faked 4722:00:11, 9 December 2015 (UTC) 4582:02:51, 9 December 2015 (UTC) 4545:15:36, 5 December 2015 (UTC) 4513:15:22, 5 December 2015 (UTC) 4488:15:17, 5 December 2015 (UTC) 4470:13:08, 5 December 2015 (UTC) 4451:12:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC) 4437:2015 San Bernardino shooting 3311:, Joobo. You're engaging in 2352:13:15, 17 January 2015 (UTC) 2336:00:48, 17 January 2015 (UTC) 2104:Requested move 26 March 2015 2039:10:43, 17 January 2015 (UTC) 1996:23:40, 16 January 2015 (UTC) 1947:04:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC) 1710:was terrorism, wasn't it? -- 1480:08:42, 13 January 2015 (UTC) 1117:"terrorist attack" by using 852:Beslan school hostage crisis 223:inclusion here. Thoughts?— 4406:06:07, 7 October 2015 (UTC) 4363:06:07, 7 October 2015 (UTC) 4255:11:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC) 4214:• In general all additions 4148:11:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC) 4110:07:47, 4 October 2015 (UTC) 4064:07:47, 4 October 2015 (UTC) 4037:07:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC) 4025:Thanks for the clarificaion 4003:05:12, 4 October 2015 (UTC) 3989:if you borrow any content. 3987:WP:Copying within Knowledge 3928:06:29, 4 October 2015 (UTC) 3819:06:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC) 3785:06:18, 27 August 2015 (UTC) 3401:to reactivate your request. 3389:has been answered. Set the 2684:if they contain any of the 2514:As usual, it comes down to 2196:This List is clearly about 1298:to reactivate your request. 1286:has been answered. Set the 1103:to reactivate your request. 1091:has been answered. Set the 4934: 4435:December 2, 2015 - In the 3763:Charleston Church Shooting 3653:2014 Sydney hostage crisis 3409:2014 Sydney hostage crisis 3265:2014 Sydney hostage crisis 2772:. Period. End of story. — 2441:17:22, 29 April 2015 (UTC) 2387:14:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC) 2279:19:09, 26 March 2015 (UTC) 2253:Islamic terrorism#Ideology 2240:17:15, 26 March 2015 (UTC) 2214:15:10, 26 March 2015 (UTC) 2186:15:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC) 2171:14:36, 26 March 2015 (UTC) 2098:16:59, 24 March 2015 (UTC) 2080:16:55, 24 March 2015 (UTC) 2065:22:24, 23 March 2015 (UTC) 1368:12:24, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 1111:2014 Sydney hostage crisis 957:12:05, 22 April 2014 (UTC) 905:18:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 887:18:25, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 866:18:22, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 845:14:48, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 830:14:44, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 808:14:34, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 789:14:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 756:14:18, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 738:14:12, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 708:13:54, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 661:13:44, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 647:13:38, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 639:PLO attacks against Israel 524:13:05, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 510:13:01, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 481:12:51, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 467:12:31, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 444:12:24, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 424:12:18, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 389:15:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC) 293:11:45, 22 April 2014 (UTC) 270:18:54, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 248:18:36, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 233:18:22, 21 April 2014 (UTC) 197:23:37, 18 April 2014 (UTC) 168:23:22, 18 April 2014 (UTC) 141:23:17, 18 April 2014 (UTC) 124:22:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC) 105:22:24, 18 April 2014 (UTC) 4315:06:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC) 4173:) 08:14, 4 October 2015‎ 3008:, which probably isn't a 2678:sourced where they appear 2399:April 27 - June 25, 2015 2367:22:37, 6 April 2015 (UTC) 2221:As in preceding section. 2194:Note: Nominator's support 2144:14:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC) 2024:Dawson's Field hijackings 1834:The Sydney Morning Herald 1655:The Sydney Morning Herald 871:P.S. You also forgot the 368:15:33, 11 June 2014 (UTC) 4729:Please do not modify it. 4591:Please do not modify it. 4090:See my earlier comments 3888:02:59, 22 May 2015 (UTC) 3727:20:14, 22 May 2015 (UTC) 3701:15:08, 22 May 2015 (UTC) 3686:21:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3670:14:16, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3639:21:55, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3611:21:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3596:17:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3569:12:40, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3550:12:47, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3534:11:22, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3512:18:43, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3492:17:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3465:06:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3425:05:41, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3361:05:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3334:17:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC) 3297:13:23, 14 May 2015 (UTC) 3277:11:47, 14 May 2015 (UTC) 3236:20:37, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3220:17:12, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3151:14:43, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3102:13:32, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 3053:03:08, 13 May 2015 (UTC) 2975:22:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC) 2944:21:07, 12 May 2015 (UTC) 2922:on this matter, and our 2896:22:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC) 2880:18:52, 12 May 2015 (UTC) 2865:17:41, 12 May 2015 (UTC) 2294:Please do not modify it. 2118:Please do not modify it. 1668:the recent one in Canada 1485:Sydney hostage situation 1409:is actually an official 773:commit terrorist attacks 637:3. 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