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This is an article that myself and others have poked at over time, but is quite obviously incomplete at this point. The images currently included are, near as I can tell, completely random with no POV intended or implied. As such, I've restored them for the time being. Certainly the article can be
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There are plenty of other "neutral site" arenas from the 1990s that were used for regular season games...Copps
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There seems to be some confusion here. There can only be 1 NEWEST stadium/arena. Little Caesar's is it. T Mobile Arena opened in 2016. In other similar articles, the caption only lists the newest stadium/arena, even if an older on is beginning use at the same time.
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