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bones and easy to read (depending on your basic resolution, most tables can occupy one full screen). The point of an overview table is that it should help summarize a series when it is difficult to navigate. That isn't the case when all the information from this LoE page has been split off into season articles. There is less need to summarize this page then there would be a page that has 5 years of plot summaries extending the length of the page and making it more difficult to keep track of basic information. The only argument for inclusion is simply "because we can", which has nothing to do with whether "we should", especially when you're talking about changing the setup of a featured page by adding a new table and ditching another one that is more valuable. (BTW, I haven't been the only one to remove the table if you actually go back into the history, and several of the "adders" have been IP editors or editors that edited briefly a couple of years ago and not since....only a few are regular contributors to
Knowledge)
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There are even people who support the veracity and accuracy of Fox News and rebuke the Daily Show's liberal bias even as
Stewart lays claim to only being an entertainer. There is a difference in being a news organization interested in facts, and one interested in a liberal or conservative agenda, or for that matter, a punchline. There is also a difference in being a third party publication who makes it's reputation on the accuracy of it's information, and a first party vendor only interested in piquing interest in sales, who's more than willing to correct unreliable information so long as the word is out. It's up to you if Fox News or the Daily Show is more reliable, but as far as Knowledge sources, we're more vested in those whose main vested interest is in the facts. And that requires an editorial process.
4172:"If a separate List of episodes article exists, the series overview table should be presented at the top of that article below the lead, in a section labeled "Series overview", then transcluded to the episodes section at the main article." It says to have a series overview table on the List of episodes page and then transclude it to the main article. It doesn't say "if you have one on the LoE," it says there "should" be one on the LoE and then transclude it. It is very clear. And your actions are in opposition to that guideline. Also, this page and Knowledge does not operate by "what you can agree to." It's run by consensus. I hope you can respect the work and discussions we had about TVOVERVIEW over those several months because "I don't like it" is exactly
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know of where these announcements show up in
Australia? As the only place I know of are the vendors. If there's somewhere else tell me please (I've seen anime forums but Smallville isn't anime). I'll note at the moment Ezy DVD has only listed it as a future release. Maybe when they list a date it is likely to be true. I know it's probably pointless to say it. Even though I'm not sure there is another kind of source. Unless you count magazines and they often don't have everything and may not list it online plus aren't perfect either. Nothing can be. So why not accept imperfect information and update if it changes? Isn't that what the edit button is for? Especially as they usually get it right (again it's probably pointless of me to say this). -Angeloz
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expansive information not already on the page (e.g., timeslot, rankings, viewership average, etc.), but you want the redundancy in the episode count and premiere dates, with no other new information. Your desire to add the overview table is based solely on the idea that you can (because the MOS allows for it), not if you should or if the page benefits from it. Not every page needs an overview table. In addition, you're talking about a significant change to a featured list page, as you want to add a new table and get rid of others. I don't believe that an overview table is beneficial here, when this tables have already been stripped down to their bare essence.
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of the show as a whole, it's two episodes. It's clearly intended to be interpreted that way, which is how
Homecoming is actually the 200th episode. It's also listed as "Absolute Justice Parts 1 & 2" on iTunes, which means it's two episodes. I really don't get the fervor for defending a 217 number that simply isn't correct. The Smallville Wiki gets it right, there's no reason Knowledge shouldn't as well. If you insist on saying there are only 217 episodes of Smallville, I suggest adding a separate column for produced episodes. But the main article should say 218. That's what Guinness recognizes as the record for most episodes by an American sci-fi show.
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copying
Knowledge's page (i.e., it reads verbatum). I think it's fine to leave it out until we know for sure how they will package the season. As, technically they did "produce" 22 episodes for the season, as per the contract, the CW just chose to merge two of them into one. So seeing as that was the CW's decision it couldn't fall on the producers to make a "23rd" episode just to satisfy the 22-ep contract. The CW might still consider it 22 episodes, and mark "AJ" as eps 11 and 12 in the booklet, or they could just say "Containing all 21 episodes, and the two-hour 'Absolute Justice'..." Won't know till they figure out what they want to do.
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columns to the tables, because I think we can get away with a bit more information than they can. I think it's the images and the paragraph plots that are bogging it down. You provided a South Park link and they have the same size as us, but far more seasons than we do. Also, I think if we follow The
Simpsons, we can also solve that other problem we had about a list page and a season page coexisting, because The Simpsons lists all the eps in their basic form which is just a pure list of data (title, number date), and provides links to both season pages and episode pages which give more detail in each succession.
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possible when to expect things are your bread and butter. I get it's probably pointless here to say it. I also happen to think if three of them agree then it not likely to be a coincidence (although one should be enough if there are no differences). I'll try to find other sources but I don't get the bias against people that need to try to be accurate (about it showing up) to sell something is somehow considered unreliable. As they even update if the date changes. As I said; then someone can edit if that happens. Which isn't the end of the world or
Knowledge when editing happens. -Angeloz
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episode. The numbering in the episode table represents "broadcast" numbering, and not produced number. That is why we have a production code section, because that represents the "produced" numbering and when you count that in the episode table that shows "Homecoming" to be the calculated "200th episode". If Warner Bros says it's 1 episode, which it technically is, then we cannot renumber things to fit our own agenda. No one is coming here pitching a huge fit that "Homecoming" is listed as 199 instead of 200. That is why there is a note right beside the number explaining.
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page of a show, and for articles that have not split off into season pages. The reason being, when you split off into season pages you lose all the plot info and are just left with basic tables. That means, there's far less to navigate through and there is no need to have a secondary table. In this particular case, you have a table of contents, then the overview table, and then the tables themselves which contain nothing but dates and titles. It isn't like
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there were, or when seasons started and ended. An overview table here is truly redundant, because it is literally repeating information AND repeating the setup. The only thing you have managed to do is get rid of the
Neilsen information at the bottom of the page, that had more information. In this case, it isn't a benefit. In addition, if my "it's had it for years" isn't an argument, then neither is "almost all pages have one". It's not a requirement.
3798:. As almost all "list of... episodes" pages have this type of table, I don't think it's controversial to add one here. Yes, this list hasn't had one in the past... that's not a sufficient reason to prohibit consistency with other LOE pages as well as preferable summarization and navigation. I do not buy User:Bignole's claim that a series overview table is "unnecessary" just because it is not required. It is certainly an improvement here. --
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compromise with you that is still within the guideline (if you look at the page, it shows you what a basic table looks like). I'm saying that the
Nielsen table is far better at the bottom than merged into the overview table, especially since it is more elaborate than would appear in an overview table (your edit wanted to get rid of it outright, which is a major change for an established featured page).
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3848:"Almost pages have one" because of a guideline per broad consensus. As you know, WP:TV discussed, revised, and approved the WP:TVOVERVIEW guideline together, and while I had some objections to some aspects, ultimately that guideline was a compromise. Taking a stand against series overview tables after they have been broadly used and endorsed goes against Knowledge's emphasis on consensus. --
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the article, it limits excessive size. The article was twice the size it is now, for a show that had a 1/3 of the seasons that The
Simpsons have, or half of the ones that South Park has. It's now divided up into a list of the episodes, coupled with just date-esque information, and is then broken down by seasons. If you can provide information for individual episode articles that look like
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multiple times for products simply because they hear it might be out around a specific time and then it gets moved. If we can find a news report that lists the future date then that would be better. When the date passes, if we haven't had any news reports talking about the future release date, then we can use the vendor because it'll be more accurate as to when it was released.
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identical to what's already on this page, because we wouldn't be able to put a table here or on the season page. Since they would look the same, there isn't a reason to separate them. Once we get a few episode titles so that we can start a table on this page, we'll separate the prose information and put that on the season 9 page when it is created. This might help:
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3651:"episode" and not "episodes". So, clearly they still cannot agree on anything. Regardless, the question would really be do we change the way we're counting it because a newer version counts it differently than the original version? Assuming of course they do count it differently. To me, that would be like changing the runtime in the infobox of the
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reviewing the content before it goes out to check its validity). If say some Australian news organization cited JB Hi-Fi for a date, then I'm fine with that because it means that they are citing them and not us. We just cannot cite them directly before the actual release because of the possibility that dates are often estimations ahead of time.
1399:, we do not add information that cannot be cited reliably. Kryptonsite is not considered a reliable source in this matter. Currently, the only reliable source we have that updates all the episode titles and airdates is TV Guide, and they don't post anything until they get the official write-ups from the networks themselves.
929:, then I have no problem with it. I think we can link to the episodes in the season pages, and if we find enough information on a particular article to warrant a new page, that's great. But there is no behind the scenes information on any of those ep pages that exist currently. It's probably something you'd have to by those
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community doesn't like to use vendor websites (they really don't like to use them period because they're vendors and are there to sell a product which is a conflict of interest for Knowledge, but they cut us slack when it comes to past dates because often they are the only ones that ever provide those dates).
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data that a plot would be. I'll try and shrink them, and if it's not thin enough you can adjust it after I move them. The adjusting is at the top of each table (width=1000px), which I'm going to put down to 950px and you tell me how it is. As for the individual episode pages. If you can get them to look like
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It was decided to transclude it so that it wouldn't need to be duplicated, not that having it on the main page requires that it be on the LoE page. Again, we're talking about an LoE page that has already been stripped down. There isn't a real need for an overview here when the tables are already bare
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I didn't take a stand against the table overall after that, I'm saying that it is not needed here (on this particular page). The MOS does not demand it on every page, and as always editors for a particular page can choose not to include an aesthetical piece if desired. It is better suited on the main
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As for consistency, the Warner press release for season 9 said 21 episodes, so clearly they are only counting that within the context of season 9, and they aren't using the term "episode" the way an episode guide would. They are just simplifying it so the average viewer doesn't have to think too hard
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You're reverting a valid correction based on what a DVD booklet says? The DVD also lists Absolute Justice as a "Double Episode," which is another way of saying "two episodes." Also, the DVD booklet is a representation of the presentations within the context of that season set only. Within the context
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I think you're kind of undermining your own point with that last one...you're right that, if you base it on the Daily Show, Fox News appears utterly unreliable. In fact, there are people who, in spite of Jon Stewart's insistence that it is just jokes, treat the Daily Show as a reliable news source.
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Another idea is basically could the information from vendors be considered acceptable if three or more of them agreed? Surely that might be good enough. By the way the forum I mentioned was the DVD manufacturers (of anime in Australia) forum(s) with someone from or for the company announcing it so it
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Since there's no rush to adjust the episode count of season nine until the DVD comes out and we see how they finally decide to package it, I don't think we need a "it will be completed on this episode" deadline. The sources don't say that...except the ones that have popped up recently and are clearly
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I'm not disputing that. Just because they call it one episode for the simplicity of their menu doesn't mean we have to count it just as one. Especially since Warner's official press release for the complete series lists 218. So clearly that 21-episode count for season 9 only counts within the context
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How? The header isn't designed to talk about the future, it's designed to reference the present. No episode has aired in 2010. The reality is though, that there are some scheduled to air in 2010. But if something happens, and they don't air then we can never say that the season ran from 2009 to 2010.
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Why does BigNole have the authority to decide what is allowed and what isn't? The episode information provided by Kryptonsite is always accurate, and they have proven themselves over the past few years to be a reliable source. I say we put the episode titles as they are provided because frankly the
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I have a blank sandbox, so I could recreate the episode in there. As for the DVDVerdict, there's nothing there to write about Tempest with. We can't say, "DVD Verdict gave 'Tempest' a grade of A." It means nothing without context. There was one good thing about that page though, it's got a comparison
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averaged 10 million viewers, like some shows, I wouldn't doubt there would be media coverage outside of the source, but it only averages 4-5 million. That might be great for the CW, but comparing to other primetime shows, it sucks. That's why only very select episodes ever stand out on their own with
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Because we only had verification for that one episode, which made us assume that it was a special occurrence and those worth separating out. If you have verification of the entire season, then I say we revert back to the original US airdates for all (give that it is an American show) and use a source
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of the season 8 page. See how it already has a sourced episode table started, with a synopsis of the first episode? That was basically this same time last year. The only difference between this year and last year is that this year the show will start 1 week later, and thus we'll probably have to wait
1080:, then that's fine. But episode articles that are nothing but plots and trivia do not meet article requirements. If you are such a "trivia eradicator", then why do all those articles still have such information? Try sprucing up what's there before you go running out and creating 100 episode articles.
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Someone had spent excessive time making a summary of each individual episode of Smallville. There is no summary anywhere that is as inclusive as the ones I had read (I hadn't read all of them, regrettably) . They were quite descriptive and added interesting information. Now they appear to be gone and
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Well, they've given permission to use them, but if you can find a replacement that looks the same without the watermark that's cool. I could probably go through the seasons on my computer (when I go back home Monday) and recapture each of the images and just upload them as newer versions. What do you
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And it's funny. Scrolling up on this talk page, over years and years I see Bignole speaking to other editors about why he has reverted edits / restored his prior edits because of policies and guidelines, which "aren't required." You are very aware that guidelines stem from and follow consensus, so
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As I understand it there are not two, but three relevant groups 1) The shows producers, 2) The WB network, and 3) Warner Home Video. The shows producers made two separate episodes “Society” and “Legends”. The WB network aired them back-to-back under an umbrella title as “Absolute Justice” and Warner
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I'm not in Australia, so my default browser doesn't go to Australian websites. Any news source that mentions a date is fine, whether that's a magazine or an online news source. Forums we cannot use because they are not considered reliable. It needs to be a place that has editorial oversight (someone
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The CW's own website only lists "Absolute Justice". They don't list it as two separate episodes. The CW ordered 22 episodes, but that was before they decided to combine two episodes into a single episode. The fact that they combined 2 into 1 does change the fact that they are still getting what they
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Also, to justify a split from them, you'd have to have significant coverage from sources independent from the subject, and I already know (because I own them) that the only real world information you're going to find is going to come from the companion books that the network commissions (which makes
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Ahh ok thanks for letting me know. One more question though, couldn't the stuff thats been written about season 9 on the episode list page be placed in a season page? I only ask because the other seasons only have an episode table on the episode page and not any paragraphs about the season? Sorry if
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have not been replaced with anything at all. Even if there are format and content issues (after all perfection is a never ending quest...) shouldn't there be an improvement to replace what has been removed prior to removal? Is there any way that the removed or non-linked information can be accessed?
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First, I addressed your "arguments" above, so there wasn't a point to reiterate what I said. I will again say that "easier navigation" is an argument that is not accurate because there is a table of contents. If there needs to be an overview table, then it shouldn't be more than what is on the main
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You've made that argument in past discussions, Bignole, but there is a wider consensus supporting using series overview tables. Because the "Nielsen ratings" table you are defending here is also so similar to the series overview table, I also don't understand see why conforming to the guideline is
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The actual count on the DVDs themselves is 21. They have the record because they produced 218 episodes. That is accurate. But they broadcasted at least 2 (4 if you include the finale) as a single episode. We already have a column for produced, it's called the "Production Code" section; that already
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My point wasn't that FOX or The Daily Show are reliable (both are funny; one intentionally). My point is that just because something is a news source doesn't make it reliable. So why are they meant to be considered better than something that wants you to buy something and in order for you to buy it
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It isn't about if you have a bunch saying the same date. It's about no one reviewing the information before it is posted. There isn't "editorial oversight" on vendor websites because they aren't a news organization and don't have to have such a thing. That's why when it comes to future releases the
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I can understand that although vendors in Australia tend to have the correct information 95-99% or some stores even better unless there's a shipping problem (eg. JB Hi-Fi; they often don't list things online until a week before). Also they are my only known source of DVD information. Because do you
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What color are you referring to? If you referring to the color in season 9, there wasn't any. If you're referring to the lighter tones that used to appear on every other line for each season table, then you'll have to speak to the person that changed the table. Personally, I liked the way the color
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for what is considered reliable. Kryptonsite is a fansite. The only information used from them is direct interviews, where they identify who they are talking to. Scooper reports, are not reliable sources, and that is what Krpytonsite uses. Whenever they pose "the official write-up", so does MSN and
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Can we not make the individual pages without having reviews? Im just wondering because alot of other tv shows don't have them - for example Buffy the Vampire Slayer has a page for every episode and the usually include a more detailed plot (which is good considering we can only put a couple of lines
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episode commentary on the DVD (which sucks), so as of right now all the production info is going to come from a single source, which isn't great, but it isn't the end of the world either. You work on finding reviews and we can discuss whether some aren't worth mentioning on the sandbox's talk page.
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Why aren't you putting the episode titles that have been revealed by KryptonSite??? Who care if they may be wrong! And if they are, you can just change it when we find out the real titles. There is no point in fussing so much. And what's going to happen if you write down a title that probably isn't
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It's being redirected right now because we don't have what we need to separate it from this page. Right now, we don't have any episode titles or airdates (except the premiere date) from any reliable source. Thus, what's on this page would be identical to what's on the season 9 page. Once they start
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We need to do something about the size of this article. It's 71kb, which creates quite a bit of lag. I think we should look to some other "Lists of episodes" pages for a format that will help trim the size down. The Simpsons have 18 seasons and are at 63kb (not to mention a Featured List). We could
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Either you are intentionally reading my and AussieLegend's responses selectively, skimming over the relevant counter-arguments to you, or (assuming good faith) you really haven't read the counter-arguments above ("consistency to Knowledge TV articles, easier navigation, and added information" – in
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To me it isn't. This page does not contain any plot summaries (they were all moved to the season articles), thus you are literally dealing with tables that contain nothing more than dates and titles. The average reader is not going to have trouble navigating this page to find out how many episodes
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They didn't air "Society" and "Justice" back-to-back. During the post-production phase, they literally joined them together as a single episode. The network is merely not ignoring the fact that the producers have "produced" 2 separate episodes and are accepting "Homecoming" as the 200th "produced"
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It's a mathematic issue. The DVD, which the network produces, lists "Absolute Justice" as a single episode. Simple math says that "Homecoming" cannot be the 200th counted episode. It's considered the 200th "produced" not the 200th "broadcasted" episode. That's the difference. That is why we have a
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I know that's probably when it will be released, I'm merely saying that the general consensus when it comes to using vendors as a source of information is that we don't use them for future releases because of the changeable nature of vendor information. It isn't a "me" issue, but a community gripe
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It may be a single presentation, but it still counts as two episodes. Quit playing semantics. Warner considers the series as having 218 episodes, that's the Guinness Record for most episodes for an American sci-fi show, and it only works out that way if Absolute Justice is two episodes. That's the
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But it is wrong factual information. If the CW ordered a 22 episode season, then how can "Absolute Justice" be only 1 episode? Also, somebody needs to get rid of the TBA between "Conspiracy" and "Escape". Look, I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just trying to get the information fixed. Thanks.
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Sorry, but I couldn't find any negative ones. I'll try later, but I've seen thousands of episodes where they have no negative reviews, or any for that matter. We can't expect to have neutrality if there are no available negative ones. Oh and one thing, could you be able to make the episode in your
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I have that Futon Critic bit in the season article. BuddyTV reviews typically don't have much to say. I might be able to add that Jonathan Boudreaux to the season article, since we have stuff about the pilot, it would be good to have something on "Tempest" to tie up that more nicely. The Mania one
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Hey, I was hoping someone could help me, I was going to make a season page for season 9 since it is beginning in a couple of weeks. I normally have no problem creating season pages (apart from adding pictures so when one becomes available for this season someone please add it!) but a page entitled
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I know that you are upset that I changed the format of the page. You had a time to voice your opinion of that, as I came here months ago with this. It's now a featured list, and no one but you expressed this type of opinion about the page, or that it violates any MOS. It doesn't add limitations to
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Frankly they look *disgusting*, they're in violation of Knowledge's Manual of Style and also add limitations to the amount of information that could be contained. I intend (as season one is already done) to begin creating individual pages soon. Addendum: Where have the gorram screen captures gone?
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You can say that about many many other List of episodes pages too, and during the past discussions at WP:TV I recall you saying that. Consensus disagreed with you on that point, and I don't see why this list should be an exception to the guideline we built together. I just don't see an argument
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Isn't the real litmus test how Absolute Justice will be treated in syndication, where it will most assuredly be split into two episodes? It's like how the pilots for the Star Trek shows were made as two-hour single presentations, but count as two episodes (and are listed as such accordingly). You
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I'm know that because the page is transcluded now, it would probably be impossible to have the alternating color tones. As each season section is being pulled from the season pages, it would look weird to alternate the colors on the season pages. If we chose to include an additional line on them,
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If you can find reviews for "Tempest" (season 1 finale), that would be great. I've searched my little heart out, and purposefully didn't put the production info for that episode in the season 1 article because I wanted to spin it out on its own. The way its looking, I'll have to put it in, unless
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episodes are every reviewed by professional reviewers, and when some are it is usually only by a single (sometimes two) entity, where there isn't enough information to justify a split from the season article. You have to remember, this isn't the parent article for indidvidual episodes, the season
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It's a fansite, that gets a lot of its information from scoopers. Though the information is generally accurate, there is no way to actually verify the information as authentic (hence why places like MSN and TV Guide wait until the CW officially releases the titles). Things can change when you get
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I'll add it in, and then, just like "copyediting" others can tweak the colors. As I said, I was going for the color (on the main bar) of the DVDs. As for wide, I have it wider just for spacing, i can tweak that. The only reason I'd like to keep the Writer/Director is because it's more "technical"
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There is no mandated requirement for a series overview table on List of Episodes pages. Inclusion is left up to editors on individual pages. That said, there have been numerous attempts by multiple editors to add a series overview table since at least March 2010 with only one editor opposing the
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The individual season pages are transcluded so that when the data is added or changed on the season 10 page, the same information is added or changed on season 10 on the main episodes list. So the reality is, each writer/director is linked only once on each season page, the first time, and as a
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Although that is good information, we typically will only use vendors when sourcing already released products. Vendors do not always have the actual release date, but more of an estimated...and sometimes they provide specific estimations based on previous years. Amazon has changed upcoming dates
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Just a note, there have been a number of hour-long series that had two-hour specials as episodes in their own right, as well as half-hour series with hour-long specials that counted as episodes (not two but one). Of course, these eventually wound up being cut in half for syndication, but that's
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We could also have sections for trivia and arc significance which can easily be added to by anyone has seen the particular episode. Trivia can include random facts we discover in the episodes for example "this episode is the first to feature red kryptonite" etc. As well as sections for music and
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It probably should be condensed. I'm basing it on the fact that I get some lag on my state computer, and their internet and processors are better than my personal computer (which isn't slow itself). I'm working on a simpson-esque format in a sandbox, but I think I'm going to try and add a couple
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where you have 3 seasons of plot summary so far and take up more space and are harder to navigate within the season tables. The idea of redundancy that you and I discuss is about where you want to accept it. I'm willing to accept a brief redundancy in ratings information when it is next to more
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Have any of you guys seen clips from FOX News? I've seen it via The Daily Show and if that's considered reliable then I'd be amazed. Not to mention that it has editorial oversight. Just because someone wants to sell you something does not make it unreliable. Especially when being as accurate as
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No no, lol, I put it here because you showed an interest in building it up (hence the "we'll weed out any decent reviews" comment). This will be a joint effort. I have to leave for work now (already late), but I'll try and go through the book I have for "Tempest". Unfortunately, there isn't any
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Not a stupid question at all. It's kind of what I was alluding to. Right now, since we don't have any episode titles or airdates beyond the premiere, we'd have nothing but a blank table here, which wouldn't be appropriate to have. If we create a season page for season 9, it would basically look
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I don't know how they're counting the actual episodes themselves, as the discs would be more accurate than the press release since one does not necessarily go hand in hand with the other. It also means they are counting the finale as 2 episodes, yet the official description for the finale says
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Based on that, it seems to me that we should give “Absolute Justice”/“Society”/“Legends” two numbers so that the table agrees with the show's producers and the WB network in emphasizing original production numbers over DVD numbers. The related footnotes would stay, but rewritten to explain why
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Why don't you start working on the Season pages. Your gross disregard for working with others is beginning to bother me. Look at the MOS for television articles. Individual episode pages are the last step, and that is after they have been broken into season pages. Individual episode pages that
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First, you are misreading "should be presented" as a mandate to have. That is not the intention of that wording. The wording is meant to tell an editor where to place an overview table. You are misunderstanding the wording of that section. As for "what I agree to". That is my trying to find a
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doesn't descretely say "Use parenthasis" or "Don't use parenthasis", but it does favor the EN Dash. "Year ranges, like all ranges, are separated by an en dash, not a hyphen or slash: 2005–06 is a two-year range, whereas 2005/06 is a period of twelve months or less such as a sports season or a
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directed as two seperate episodes. Still has two production codes. If you're going to obsess over semantic hairs, you may even have to consider that it's not even an episode at all, if it qualifies as the "movie event" the network touted it as. That would make the record come in at episode
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So what? "Encounter at Farpoint" was a single produced episode originally broadcast as one episode, and later split into two episodes, and it counts a two episodes on Knowledge. Absolute Justice is clearly two episodes for the purposes of episode numbering. That's why iTunes lists it as Parts
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More ignorance (tsk), I actually like the layout - very much, thanks. Also, those articles are in bad shape as nobody has bothered to fix them up - perhaps I'll do it when I feel the desire. I'll happily put this list up for review though if you insert user submitted sources again.
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Is it just me or is there something wrong with the list of the ninth season? It says that "Warrior" is the 11th episode and airs on Feb. 12th, but that is one week after "Absolute Justice", the 12th episode. Isn't "Warrior" supposed to be the 12th episode?
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paid for. It's just not how they originally intended. That said, it's still just one episode. Unless the DVD comes out an lists it as two separate episodes, it appears we'll end up with 21 one individual episodes, with one of them being 2 hours long.
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It's less a sourcing issue and more of a typo. The dates were all converted to an HTML code, and someone must have put in the wrong month. According to EZDVD, they list "March 3" and not "May 3"....so it was probably just a typo someone had.
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They broadcast them as single presentations. And the DVD is internally inconsistent since it calls it a "Double Episode." If they produced 218 then the main page should say 218. It's confusing otherwise since most other sources say 218.
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note explaining what happened on both season 9 and season 10 pages. The season 9 page reflects the actual numerical broadcast, and you'd have to skip a number for "Homecoming" to be listed as the 200th broadcasted episode.
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page (which is what I can agree to). As for OVERVIEW doesn't say put one on the main page....it actually does. It says start it there, and if you have one on the LoE page then just transclude it (to save space).
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Hi again I'll admit I don't understand the complicated codes in the DVD and Blu-ray section. So I'll type the information here. According to a site Season 9 DVDs and Blu-rays will be released 2 March 2011 (DVD -
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If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with
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http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/09/27/friday-finals-supernatural-up-dateline-down/65397
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It's being marketed as a "2-hour movie event", but it's still just an episode.
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someone else can find reviews for the finale. You have to remember that
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What table? The DVD table? There isn't enough information to report.
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TV Guide, which are better sources to use. My actions follow
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cultural references if they are relevant for the episode?
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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get written about by reliable secondary sources more than
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http://www.mania.com/smallville-tempest_article_34656.html
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I think Allison Mack hasn't been switched in the columns.
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going to be wrong? It's really not the end of the world. (
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It's US specific for Smallville because it's a US show.
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http://abcmedianet.com/web/dnr/dispDNR.aspx?id=051909_05
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http://abcmedianet.com/web/dnr/dispDNR.aspx?id=100207_05
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Got you ok. Thanks for the link to help explain things.
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