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Compendia written by Andrew Pixley. As a matter of fact, Ellington's item does appear in the BBC's CD release of "The Plasticine Man" and Ellington himself appears for at least one line in "The Curse of Frankenstein". If there are no objections, I would be happy to make some appropriate changes with adequate referencing. Of course we wouldn't be having this discussion had Milligan stuck to the proper length of script! --
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1393:'Cymbeline'. The hero was actually 'Cunobeline' but adding a to Cymbeline would be very wrong. So do you think we should go through English literature and add sics to thousands of titles, should we use a double standard and tag some but not others or should we simply accept that the title is what the author wrote?
1211:"The on-line station GoonShowRadio broadcasts most of these 100 episodes continuously." The clear implication here is that GoonShowRadio (if it's still going, I haven't checked) has just recorded thes episodes of Radio 4 Extra and is streaming them illegally. If so, I suggest deleting the reference.
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The only reason for adding is to show the editor's erudition. You may not have heard of
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But the point remains that the title is Marie
Celeste not Marie sic Celeste. Titles by definition are either right or wrong. The actual spelling is unimportant. If you are going to start applying your standards to other people's titles then you will be very busy. As an example Shakespeare wrote
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Presumed? We deal with cited facts not presumptions. The title of the episode was clearly 'Marie
Celeste' without a . All three contemporaneous Goons were educated. Michael Bentine (still their friend) was even more of a historian. If they wanted to call the episode 'Mary Celeste' they would.
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1050:- none of the participants were Goons. Best we leave this performance on the Goon page under revivals etc ? (otherwise should we not add all other performances of Goon imitators?) --
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