Talk:List of reportedly haunted locations

1371:. Consistency is needed here, and 'place' is much better than the mildly deprecated 'location', and the 'List of' describes the content page layout appropriately. There will be iconoclasts on both sides of the ghosts 'do/don't" exist argument who will support or object to these listings being on Knowledge (XXG). 'Reported' at least does cover the fact that these ghosts are reported, even in reputable sources, although sometimes for entertainment, and therefore Knowledge (XXG) can wipe its hands of POV accusation. However, if we feel that it is blatantly obvious that the world 'knows' that ghosts don't exist, or belief is held only by a small minority, then qualifying the listings with 'reported' would not be appropriate. But general non-belief is not iron-clad, and differing peoples and cultures have ghosts as part of their belief systems, myths and legends, which we don't discriminate against. To have 'reported' seems to keep the thing neutral, and would at least leave open a removal challenge for those 'sightings' which could be added without any or reliable verification. I would go for 'List of reported haunted places in XXXX' rather than 'List of haunted places in XXXX', although I'm not over-exercised about this. Here are indications of the extent of ghost belief: 693: 588: 1951:). "Haunted house" is a concept, and our article on it is conceptual. We make no claim that a house is haunted; rather we make the claim that the phrase has a particular meaning. A list of places that are purported to be haunted is not conceptual, but a direct factual claim. We remain factual when we claim they are purportedly haunted, but we veer into making bogus claims of the paranormal when we switch gears and claim they're lists of haunted locations. 609: 348: 330: 419: 398: 512: 491: 299: 218: 3726:. For the same reasons as before. Beyond that, I feel like this is edging towards some kind of of abuse of process. When it because clear that consensus was strongly against removing the word "reportedly", if Netoholic still wanted to pursue this, they should have started a discussion about it. Repeated straw-polls for small variations on the same proposal are not the right thing to do. 248: 1957:; the words are not quite synonymous, and the difference actually matters, especially in an encyclopedic context where we use "reportedly" most often to mean "as stated in a reliable source". Few reliable sources are ever going to claims these places are haunted; rather, they'll reliably report that someone have claimed (purported) that they are haunted. 3486:

so whatever extra wording we feel like we need add to prevent it from seeming like we endorse the idea of real ghosts, we should at least use something that is clear and non-editorializing. Or maybe just submit these to AFD as FRINGE and we can eliminate the problem. I am just hearing very little in the way of creative problem-solving here. --

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Then you all have to start giving some better alternatives. I refuse to believe that "reportedly" is the best title we can come up with but no one seems to want to engage in any brainstorming or counter-proposals. Almost universally, sources which might be used call this "haunted places in Scotland",

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The "Loch Ness Monster" is essentially defined as a monster reportedly residing in Loch Ness. It does not exist as a real beast, but since "Loch Ness Monster" is the common wording of "monster reportedly residing in Loch Ness" and has the same meaning, the current wording is the best. With "haunted

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The things do not have any recognizable grammar. Does "List of haunted places in Scotland folklore" mean "folklore about a list of haunted places in Scotland" or "List of folklore of haunted places in Scotland" or "List of haunted places from Scottish folklore"? The current wording is clear: it's a

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Per Roxy. And we really should be consistent with how we name these categories. And yes I acknowledge that the Haunted house Knowledge (XXG) page should remain named so, and not Reportedly haunted house. Saying Haunted locations in XYZ location seems so final and as if Knowledge (XXG) has deternmed

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don't use any expression of doubt in titles). I am fully willing to accept that the LEAD and every single entry on these lists should describe the "haunted" status as coming from folklore and not scientific proof (I'm not aware any of them make that claim), but the title has to follow the sources

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Netoholic, the claim that a place is haunted (has supernatural beings in it, interacting with or otherwise detectable by humans) is a scientific claim which can be investigated, so of course FRINGE applies. Repeat: WTW is words to watch (to use selectively and carefully), not to avoid entirely, so

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based solely on the prevalence of its coverage as such in local/national media and without any scientific claim of actual spirits? Would you not agree that that is strong evidence that such places are considered "haunted" largely via the story/folklore and not the literal existence of ghosts. As

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Removing the "reportedly". Even if we took the existence of ghosts as a given, or we accepted that "haunted" is a cultural myth does not literally imply real ghosts, the number of these places that are blatant manufactured tourist traps should be enough that we don't want to label them simply

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convey doubt, about an ultra-fringe topic, while "reportedly" is too easily inferred to mean "verified by professional journalists, scientists, or others in reputable publications". No one has verified any haunting, only that someone have/has claimed a haunting. The difference is important.

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus is rather clear. Absent verifiable ghosts, we can't say in Wiki-voice that anywhere is haunted. A second RfC may be required to establish whether they should be harmonised at "List of" since most people never got past the obvious.

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this good faith nom. I don't think an encyclopedia can say that there are "haunted locations". The 'reportedly haunted' keeps it in the realm of "maybe yes-but probably no", while "List of haunted locations" says right up front that these are haunted. Probably not a good idea.

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gives "A person who possesses, or appears to possess, extra-sensory abilities...", and "A person who supposedly contacts the dead". I think it's reasonable to treat these terms as having some appropriate amount of skepticism baked in, at least in some contexts.

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Whats a good, objective site for researching haunted buildings/places? http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/ has a fair amount of material but some of it needs updating, and there's no contact information on the site so ther's no way to report updates. Thanks

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house", it's the same. But "List of haunted places in Scotland" has another meaning than "List of reportedly haunted places in Scotland". The first phrase implies that that there are ghosts in those places, while the second one does not. We have a

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does not cover folklore or religious beliefs. It covers scientific claims. These lists are not scientific claims, and there is no realistic chance that outside readers would interpret them as scientific claims if named without the WEASEL words. --

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Firstly, I reject the idea that calling place "haunted" is directly equivalent to stating that a ghost exists there - haunted is a term that can mean simply having a tragic history, or that there is some story in local folklore. Second,

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Removal of the "reportedly" term is a consistency issue - since that term is not used in titles of any other paranormal subjects - in addition to the lack of sources that use it with respect to this topic (I couldn't even find uses via

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No way under the sun should Knowledge (XXG) use any wording in an article title or in article text that states or implies in Knowledge (XXG)'s voice that anything like "haunting" exists, or that any place is actually haunted. Never.

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This reminds me a bit about an ancient debate over how to describe psychics and mediums. Do we call them "purported psychics" or "purported mediums" or do we call them just "psychics" and "mediums"? It's weird because while there

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There can be valid reasons to cast doubt on the accuracy, like in this particular case where it's not misuse ("Words such as supposed, apparent, alleged and purported can imply that a given point is inaccurate"): precisely...

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There's no "creative problem-solving" necessary because there'S no problem to be solved. In fact, the only "creative problem-solving" I see is your increasingly strained attempts to dodge NPOV by abusing the English language.

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is about sources. It says we do not need sources for things that are obviously true. It does not say we should not write things that are obviously true, and it does not say we should write things that are obviously false.

268: 1458:. I also have to reject the idea that a place can only be considered "haunted" if in fact ghosts exist. Haunted places are defined by their mystery, history, and legend... not by the literal existence of ghosts. -- 2941:. I would say this top-level list should be limited to places we have articles about and that within that article covers their reported "haunting" in more detail. The regional/local lists can be more extensive. -- 927:- "Haunted house" is a name, not a descriptor, while "haunted locations" is a descriptor. However, the current name is poor too, as "reportedly" still implies it is factual. I would support an alternative move to 3628:

How is it pseudoscientific that folklore includes stories about haunted places? Fictional works/topics cannot be "pseudoscientific" because they have nothing at all to do with making scientific claims. They are

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My jokes are based on true stories, though, and it's no secret our granddaddies' journalism was brutally murdered by medium socialists in 2008. And besides, if hauntings are as common as commonly reported, why

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Again, the guideline you keep citing does not prohibit us using a term like "claimed" or "purported" when we have an encyclopedic reason to do so; it addresses mistaken or inappropriate implication of doubt.

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And "List of ghost reporters" seems to come full circle in absurdity, and claim not only journalist-verified "reported" undead spirits, but now the undead spirits of journalists! "I refuse to work at

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I live about 30 km from the city of Oświęcim. I've been several times in Auschwitz camp and museum, and Ihave newer heard this story about ghosts of holocaust victims, neither me nor anyone I know.

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In today's world, digesting the title might be all we can expect of many readers, and it would be absurd to use Knowledge (XXG)'s voice to lend credence to the idea that there are haunted places.

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exactly? It is in fact "reportedly" that seems to be the misuse (per the guidelines I mentioned), and, as evidence, across all Knowledge (XXG) it only crops up on this series of articles (

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series of articles. This haunted place is so inCONSISTENT with anything else we do. And let me also ask this - would you agree that one could read "reportedly haunted locations" as itself

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See every credible source on investigations of the paranormal. In centuries of science, not one single claimed haunting has ever been verified. Again, you simply do not understand either

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but in reality it needs no extraneous wording because any reasonable reader would not infer that Knowledge (XXG) is stating the existence of lake monsters as fact. Same applies to the

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We are almost there anyway, with all those categories. The question is: is this the direction we want to go as an encyclopedia? Yellow journalism? The next step may be articles like

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titles, I am listing these all together. Issue #1: Any immediate look into this subject finds that the phrase "haunted places" is vastly more common than "haunted locations" (

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titles, I am listing these all together. Issue #1: Any immediate look into this subject finds that the phrase "haunted places" is vastly more common than "haunted locations" (

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regarding mainstream science, e.g. there is no evidence that ghosts or hauntings exist. There may be some percentage of popular belief in such things, however we don't give

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Since these articles are under extra scrutiny right now, I suggest that you and anyone else that sees crap content be bold about excising it from any of these articles.

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says that "non-neutral but common names... generally overrides concern that Knowledge (XXG) might appear as endorsing one side of an issue". The guidelines are clear,

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Please cite for me the guideline that says we are encouraged (without citation, such as in an article title) to use these expressions of doubt and WEASEL words. Even

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The proposal changes the scope of these articles, and opens the topic over whether a haunting is real or not. This was never the intention behind these articles.

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I am imagining now a Knowledge (XXG) which ponders to spooky sensationalism by listing every haunted place in the world and saying they are actually "haunted"

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dropping the "reportedly", for the reason Roxy gave. Don't care about "place or "location", but I agree that the names should be consistent. Please note that

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because it is not used widely in any of the sources and seems to be editorializing. A suitable replacement in the form of "folklore" is available. --

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Those who are happy with the current wording will not do so. So, if there are no suggestions, it seems like everybody except you is happy with it. --

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list of places in Scotland that are reportedly haunted - that have been reported to be haunted. But the main thing is NPOV, of course, as before. --

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suggests a reporter-type reported his or her purport to a spooky old newsdesk, but not "really". Anybody can report, just like anybody can decide.

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I decline to get into a protracted argument about this. The move proposal is clearly not going to meet with consensus, and that is sufficient.

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a

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Would "claimed" be somehow better? To me, it doesn't feel as out of place, while still conveying the unproven nature of the subjects. So

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because it is not used widely in any of the sources and seems to be overreaching editorialization. For most editors and readers, it is

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These lists can include any locations reported to be "haunted" in reliable sources (but obviously not including locations which are

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I hope my own response was mock-alarmist enough to go along with the humor; Hob seems to think I was taking it all very seriously.

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reporters get caught up in the whole ghastly scene when they die? Nothing but "unfinished business" in that dearly departed field.

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until it was moved (apparently without discussion) in 2018. Since consistency is important, perhaps it should be moved back. -

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related articles on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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Do you mean your own personal interpretation of the guidelines, despite what you were told about that in your last RM? -

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Please explain your "awful misuse of the english language" comment. How do the proposed titles present a "misuse"? --

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I am pretty sure the Hulk was joking. (I moved my own contribution to the right place and adapted the indenting.) --

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So, no actual defense of your incorrect invocation of FRINGE? Here, consider this as well - did you know that

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everyone opposes this and it makes me regret supporting it. I suggest that we move to a speedy conclusion per

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contains several dozen categories that are called "Category:Reportedly haunted locations in <somewhere: -->

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I don't see any possible reason to do this. Is every single location listed in any of these list considered

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by which we do not really mean they have real ghosts - it's folklore! Don't look at us like that! Wink, wink!

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all these changes. We should not be saying in wiki voice that anywhere is haunted. It simply isn't true. -

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covering "District of Columbia" which is written in prose format. Issue #3: The term "reportedly" fails

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, you can edit the attached article, help with

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knowledge that hauntings are not real - something that does not seem to be a problem when titling

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per Roxy. The concept that spirits of the dead can definitely be found in certain locations is

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Sorry I was not able to get a comment in the above Move Request discussion. Knowledge (XXG) is

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gives the gloss "Someone who supposedly conveys information from the spirit world." Similarly

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cast doubt. Another convenient moment to ignore a MOS from you, someone who idolizes MOS. --

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the requested move, but I support a unification to "List of" and a change "locations" -: -->

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There is not really much more to say, they are not haunted they are alleged to be haunted.

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Every major mainstream news and travel outlet has articles devoted to "haunted places" (

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as being an attempt to seem "neutral" but missing the mark and crossing the line into

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I've already explained why "purportedly" is better, for the specific reason that it

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which do not use "reportedly", "purportedly", or even more vaguely "claimed". --

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Just doing a quick spot check, and the very first entry I look at is a problem:

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I would support a mass move of these to "purportedly" instead of "reportedly"

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removal of reportedly per Roxy et al. No opposition to places vs. locations.

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A location is not a ghost. We also have articles about ghosts, which are in

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The problem is that the term "reportedly" used only in these titles is not

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does not require us to neutrally describe pseudoscientific concepts, and

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Finding a better solution than "reportedly" - such an inelegant word. --

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a house can be declared "haunted" as a matter of law by a Supreme Court

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Per Roxy the dog we can't say in Wiki's voice that these are haunted.

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