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On what basis do you question the reliability of a major Sri Lankan newspaper? Award-winning isn't my personal opinion but a fact. A cursory look at its wiki page will tell you that. Once again, cite the Wiki rule which state a source must go through RSN before it can be considered RS. You still have
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its not an exceptional claim. Sri Lankan Army have raped, massacred and tortured thousands. You know this very well yourself. There are umpteenth reliable sources indicating this. There's nothing exceptional about the Sri Lankan Armed forces killing civilians. This list is testament to this itself.
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