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22: 749:– in its current state, the lead of the article states that it is a list of islands of the Republic of Korea (i.e. South Korea). It'd either need to be significantly expanded to include North Korean islands, or moved to a more descriptive title. (The article itself also needs some serious attention, as right now it doesn't really discuss context or geographic locations; it's just a bunch of (mostly) redlinks.) -- 149: 131: 233: 215: 159: 71: 53: 894:
Any reason in particular why Korea lists should be treated differently? While I can sort of see the reason for having combined lists of rivers and animals (since North and South Korea are continuous geographically part of the same peninsula), I'm not sure that extends to islands. (If islands were to
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There is nothing stopping us from creating a list of islands of the Yellow Sea. Such a list would be valuable in addition to the country-specific lists and the other region lists. What I am arguing is that there is no reason to get rid of the general Korea list just because it isn't well-developed
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I'm not suggesting that Korean lists should be treated differently than other lists, but rather the same as other lists. To get rid of the region lists in exclusive favour of the country sublists is the opposite of common practice on Knowledge (XXG). Consider, for example,
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The region of Korea as a whole is used as the primary starting point for most lists rather than individual lists for North and South Korea, which are generally added if there is additional information that would bloat the main list. Consider, for example,
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It would be a disservice to our readers to remove encyclopedic information from the article space. Surely maintaining a general Korea list and creating a new South Korea list would be preferable to a move that decreases access to available information.
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North Korean content, I argue that it would still be better to have two articles, one for each country. However, if others disagree and such content is added before the closure of this discussion, please disregard my support for a move. —
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This article is not exclusively about South Korean islands. "Hwanghaenam-do", the last section before the "see also" section, is a North Korean province (it borders Yellow Sea). No other North Korean provinces are listed here.
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Fair point, but that still doesn't address the fact that the most natural geographical groupings of these islands would instead be Yellow Sea / Sea of Japan. This list currently seems closer to a country list to me.
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is an impossible name in Korean, though it does sound good! I don't have decent enough maps of the Geoje area, so could anyone who does correct this please?
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stub, if loss of information is a concern, but there doesn't seem to be a convincing argument in support of listing the two countries' islands together. --
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Even if we have separate articles for North Korean and South Korean islands, there should be a parent article for Korea in general. Consider, for example,
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As has already been stated, there are already several North Korean islands listed here. They would have to be removed if this article's title changed.
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Yes they would. The grand total of three red links in the list that are islands of North Korea can be put on this talk page for future use.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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I agree. However, the mammals articles contain a lot of duplicate info. Instead, how about what existed from 2005–2007: a DAB page at
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for inspiration or assistance). This article has been around for nearly 10 years with nothing on North Korean islands added yet.
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for inspiration or assistance). This article has been around for nearly 10 years with nothing on North Korean islands added yet.
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yet or because we want a list specific to South Korea. We can have both, and we serve our readers better when we have both.
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A disambiguation page is not appropriate in this case; disambiguation pages are not substitutes for parent articles.
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Per WilyD. (Gregkaye: S.Korean visiting N.Korean territory is a good reason for jail for lots of years.)
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
398:, which also borders North Korea. Are you sure none of them are in North Korean territorial waters? 813: 778: 705: 669: 578: 477: 445: 950: 908: 850: 620: 524: 339: 754: 841:, and there aren't other pages listing islands by peninsula. By all means split and create a 965: 935: 885: 801: 725: 689: 654: 598: 562: 498: 465: 544: 428: 989: 616:
If S Koreans can't go to N Korean islands then this is a good reason to split content.
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but an article's title should accurately reflect its contents. If someone wants to add
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That such was the case before does not suggest that such should not be the case again.
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Then are we to simply lose the information contained in the Hwanghaenam-do section?
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
425: 395: 154: 232: 214: 158: 768:. The article has been around in some form for years. I generally oppose 70: 52: 177: 903:.) The airlines list, on the other hand, seems out-right absurd. -- 84: 82:, a collaborative effort to build and improve articles related to 96:. For instructions on how use this banner, please refer to the 15: 252:, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the 664: 356:– The article does not cover North Korean islands – - 988:
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