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thank you for clearly getting started on this Augean stable. Can see you've started with the air refueling wings. However, R.E. Mixer did get one thing right: our syntax for titles. Should for preference be in the form 'Air refueling wings of the United States Air Force' when you move or set up new
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If the change were only to the name and limiting the list to what its title says it is (contradicted in the first sentence of the lead by "This is a list of the three generations of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) produced and deployed by the United States during the Cold War, with a
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Missile Wings not assigned to SAC. However, it strikes me that this article is a little narrow for an encyclopedia. Perhaps the article should be made more inclusive as
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Refueling Wing. Cheers, do ask for help or a second read if you wish.
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