Talk:List of political parties in India/Archive 1

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or to the Legislative Assembly of the State, following the general election to the House/Assembly concerned on the basis of which it got recognition (hereinafter referred to as "the next election"), it shall continue to be treated as recognized State Party or National Party. Second time failure will not be allowed.

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and I've seen quite a few contribute very positively to Knowledge. A friendly link to this discussion could also be added to the IPs user talk page as well if they seem really new to editing since they might not be too familiar with Knowledge. Another benifit of linking to this discussion in the edit

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Hmm, there are these IP(s) who refuse to even explain why they revert and I doubt they even looked at this discussion; for quite some time now, they have been at this. So being bold and removing them doesn't work, and they don't care even about the non-free images, they keep adding them back too even

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According to ELECTION COMMISSION OF INDIA, Dated:- 22nd August. 2016 NOTIFICATION, Election Symbols (Reservation and Allotment) (Amendment) Order: If a political party recognized as a State Party or National Party fails to fulfil the conditions at the next general election to the House of the People

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Most Indian parties (except the Congress-based and Communist parties) are known in English by their vernacular names (and there is no such thing as an 'Indian name' - a name is in Hindi or Tamil or some other language, not in 'Indian'). Also, usually a party is known by only one name, so for example

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Indeed, that's why I feel that the flags section isn't needed. There are way too many non free ones and it's not feasible to get all of them. For flags, it's more harder to get a free image compared to symbols (where I think there's just 2-3 non-free ones currently blanked for symbols); the symbols

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because of I never dealt with lists before. I plan to rewrite and merge the criteria sections to the lead for the first copyvio problem. The other one, the ECI warnings, can be removed since we can't add every election result's developments each time. Then of course, the lists are left to be tidied

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I would dispute the assertion that many regional parties are "wannabes". Many of them are very influential within their own regions, and are capable of defeating even the national parties in a head-on contest. In fact, national parties are actually building up alliances with strong regional parties

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sum is that it might also catch the attention of another more established editor who has this article on their watchlist. Just a few suggestions on how to proceed from here on since the issue is no longer just about non-free images, but more about a local consensus to not use any images at all. --

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However coalition governments were did exist earlier, althought not as much as they have been since the 1989 General Election. There was the Janata Government at the centre from 1977-1979, and various coalitions in UP and Bihar that are not mentioned. I don't know of any online source about these,

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if desired; they just shouldn't be displayed. Some editors do not like linking some images and displaying others, so in such cases removing all the images like you've done is an option. Personally, I think neither the flags nor election symbols are needed in this article since each party seems to

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is not listed as a recognized state party in Tamil Nadu as per Election Commission of India. This is the citation# 2 . If you open the document in English, you can clearly see Pattali Makkal Katchi is listed as State recognized party only in Pudduchery, not Tamil Nadu. Please remove Tamil Nadu

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when I first came across this page when I was unsure about making a big change, but didn't get much response. Thanks for your input in this, I really hate making such moves alone. Let's see if I get time to work on this and give this issue some more thought or maybe even personally invite more

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As of 13/1/2015 the list of national parties are below: 1.Bahujan Samaj Party Elephant [In all States/U.T.s except in the State of Assam, where its candidates will have to choose a symbol from out of the list of free symbols specified by the Commission] 4, Gurudwara Rakabganj Road, New Delhi –

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to the file's page and then add the file to the article. Note that each usage requires a rationale, so a single rationale for multiple uses (even on the same page) is not considered complying with NFCCP. Before you add the rationale, however, it might be a good idea to ask about this at

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Hi I wish to add Jan Sangh Party which is a registered uncecognised political party withElection Commission of India, New Delhi. Our address is A-90, Sector 21, Noida, GB Nagar 201301 (U.P) I can provide copy of registration letter for the same. website www.jansanghparty.com

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The amount of vandalism to the page from unregistered users have reached an all time high in the past few days. The disruption is pretty evident if anyone goes by the recent edits. I would therefore request a semi-protected status for this article; for atleast a few days.

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I've tried my best and quite honestly, feel the article is good as it is right now. FL is just too strict (and hard) for a page like this. I'll continue trying to maintain it. Not to discourage anyone who wants to nominate it, I'm willing to help in any way I can.

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The second option to earn national party status is to win 1 out of every 30 assembly seats in four states. With the CPM tally down to zero from 10 in Tamil Nadu, the party has 1/30 MLAs only in Kerala, West Bengal and Tripura in 2016 General Election.

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Hammer, Sickle and Star A.K.Gopalan Bhawan, 27-29, Bhai Vir Singh Marg (Gole Market), New Delhi - 110001. 5.Indian National Congress Hand 24,Akbar Road, New Delhi – 110011. 6. Nationalist Congress Party Clock 10, Bishambhar Das Marg, New Delhi-110001.

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1. INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE is included in both State party list and un ecognized Political parties from Kerala. 2. Total number of state parties shown on the top is 47 and in the list it is 56. kindly check this two matters.- Syam Kumar

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the BJP would never be translated as 'Indian People's Party'. In fact, if you ever find an 'Indian People's Party', it is more likely to be a different group. Neither would 'Indian National Congress' be translated into each Indian language.

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Guys, this article is badly structured, has major copyvio issues & needs a copy-edit. It uses bare urls & these need verification. Please tackle these before worrying about which parties should or should not be in this article.

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I removed three repetitions - Desiya Murpokku Dravidar Kazhagam, National People's Party and Pattali Makkal Katchi from the list of unrecognised parties as they are also given under state parties. I think there are no more repetitions.

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I have been trying to remove the previous reflabels and put the only present reflabel as a "note", however, there seems to be some error in the wikitext which is not letting it happen. Would be really kind if someone fixes that.

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The symbols: there are a few which are left to be found. Maybe later someone may complete the list of symbols. From what I know, all symbols can be made and submitted, they cannot have a copyright because of the threshold of

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against the PMK record in the column 'recognized in state/union territory'. Also, the parties in the table are rather ordered alphabetically but PMK's entry doesn't follow it. Please move it to the right place of the table.

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in order to swing votes in their favour in the upcoming General Elections. It is however true that regional parties have little, if any, influence outside their states, and thus they fully deserve their epithet 'regional'.

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lists the recognized political parties by election commission of India. I think that article can be brought here under a section with recognized parties and other parties can be under accepted but non-recognized parties.

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I have corrected national parties and some state parties. Can you please correct the state parties because some other editors are properly adding the data. Can you please check party colour of AITC as it is not showing.

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I agree. There is no need for registered unrecognised parties on wiki. Currently there are more than 1650 such parties, and the list on wiki is incomplete. There is no preference for adding these particular 30 parties.

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Maybe it's me, but I couldn't find Rashtriya Swamsevak Sangh. It comes up in Google searches and seems to be an active political group. I am no expert on Inia, so apologies in adavance if this causes confusion.

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We can start with these & limit it to these 60. Other partiess need be added later only if they are notable. Parties outside these 60 & already existing on en:WP be retained provided they are notable.

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If we are sorting the table by the year founded and not by the party name, I'd suggest moving the year column to come first. Altho I think sorting the table by party names alphabetically make sense —

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Thanks for joining in, AshLin. Keep only the ones which have articles sounds fair enough. I'll later add in-article comments too, discouraging anyone who thinks this a list for non-notable parties. -

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https://eci.gov.in/files/file/4317-amendment-of-election-symbols-reservation-and-allotment-order-1968-revised-para-6c-relating-to-conditions-for-continued-recognition-as-a-national-or-state-party/

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https://eci.gov.in/files/file/4317-amendment-of-election-symbols-reservation-and-allotment-order-1968-revised-para-6c-relating-to-conditions-for-continued-recognition-as-a-national-or-state-party/

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https://eci.gov.in/files/file/4317-amendment-of-election-symbols-reservation-and-allotment-order-1968-revised-para-6c-relating-to-conditions-for-continued-recognition-as-a-national-or-state-party/

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https://eci.gov.in/files/file/4317-amendment-of-election-symbols-reservation-and-allotment-order-1968-revised-para-6c-relating-to-conditions-for-continued-recognition-as-a-national-or-state-party/

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110001. 2.Bharatiya Janata Party Lotus 11, Ashoka Road, New Delhi – 110001. 3.Communist Party of India Ears of Corn and Sickle Ajoy Bhawan, Kotla Marg, New Delhi – 110002. 4.Communist Party of

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National Party status of All India Trinamool Congress, Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) and the Communist Party of India (CPI) has been withdrawn. They should be added back to state parties.

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It should be included in the article. Reference given including one from official website. Previous request was originally slightly different but edited to make better after getting reply.

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Wow what the great reason for deleting sate names , Knowledge not made for nice looking, if information is right and usefull then why to deleting everything by giving bullshit reasons.

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What is this AICAP? Is this a National Party? I believe this is incorrect and has been mistakenly added. The person adding AICAP is vandalising this page. I am removing the same.

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You have made the same request above. You have not mentioned what changes you wanted to propose. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a

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Why isn't the Bharatiya Janata Party flag displayed in the table? It should actually be displayed there, not just a link, unless there is a copyright problem with doing so. --

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My concerns about this page have to due with the use of non-free content. I came to this page because I saw non-free files were being used in a way that does not comply with

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be merged here. I think that the content in there is very similar and that merging it here will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned.

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belong here? It's an orphaned page, and while I think this is a good page to link to it, I am not an expert on the subject and don't want to add it if it doesn't belong.

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ECI also revoked the state party status granted to RLD in Uttar Pradesh, BRS in Andhra Pradesh, PDA in Manipur, PMK in Puducherry, RSP in West Bengal and MPC in Mizoram.

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For 'national' status a party should secure a minimum 6 per cent votes in the Lok Sabha elections and have at least 11 MPs. The CPM failed to achieve this in 2014.

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State party status has been given to the Lok Janshakti Party (Ram Vilas) in Nagaland, Voice of the People Party in Meghalaya and the Tipra Motha in Tripura.

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CPI and NCP are state party in three states. CPI in Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Manipur. NCP in Maharashtra, Lakshadweep and Nagaland. TMC in WB and Meghalaya.

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https://eci.gov.in/files/file/14890-withdrawal-of-recognition-of-communist-party-of-india-as-national-party-and-state-party-in-west-bengal-and-odisha/

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enough to have a page on Knowledge have been added on this page. There are more than 2500 political parties in India and all of them cannot be added.

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If you wish to turn a reference into a footnote, replace it with {{efn|text you want to put in the note}} and put {{notelist}} in the notes section.

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As discussed above, we have a rough consensus to do away with these two columns from both the "State" and "National" sections and I've removed them

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Source for the date "came into force with effect from l January, 2014": already given an Election Commision link just after it in the article.

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https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/national/ec-to-review-status-of-state-and-national-parties-every-10-years/article9018110.ece

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Second time failure will not be allowed like first time as mentioned above to retain the status of a State Party or National Party.

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And Communist Party of India (Marxist) may lost its national party status, because it doesn't meet criteria in 2016 General Election.

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You got that right. This was on my watchlist for long but I only recently checked it after someone removed one addition. I just read

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WOW. Thnks to Knowledge, we know how many parties there are in India. I was expecting this page to be bigger than that on India.

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RSP should be state party in 1 state (Kerala). What about AIFB? According to its poll performances, it should be unrecognized.

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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a

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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a

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As two days over without any reply, I'm posting it once again. It will be under a new heading. One of the two references from

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This discussion showed support for this, leaving this as a reference in case someone has time to go ahead with this proposal.

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I dread to think how many duplicates we have here. I will attempt to work on it - unless any Indian wikipedians can sort it.

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when you just ":" linked them. Using their refusal to discuss and addition of non-free images as rationale let's see if my

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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As per notification issued by ECI on 13 December 2016 AITC, BSP, BJP, CPI, CPI(M), INC and NCP are national parties. See

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The name PRISM inserted as a political party points to something that has nothing to do with a political party. Thanks.

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if there's a consensus to do so. Another reason for asking is that someone may know of a way to convert the file to a

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The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:

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The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:

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Actually come to think of it, the symbols too seem unrequired per your reasoning. They were added here from merging

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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.

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Hi I want to modify (Registered Unrecognized) portion, add some detail and complete table,may i complete? Thanks

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said that Party color should be corrected according to their party logo and color, and he changed the color of

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of the flag. If you feel that this is not the case for this particular usage, then add the separate, specific

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