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Parents Worship Day/Matri Pitri Pujan Diwas are different and should be separated: (1) "worship" describes the general act of religious devotion, while "puja" describes the specific act of devotion in Hinduism or Buddhism, including the rituals or customs specific to that religion; (2) "Earth" describes a physical object, the planet we live on, while "Prithvi"/"Bhūmi" describes a Hindu goddess represented by the Earth. Actually, you've made more of a case to merge Pritvi and Bhūmi, as they are clearly the same subject.
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Hinduism, Islam, Jain etc. And "Matru-Pitru Pujan Diwas" involves Hinduism specific rituals. Point to be noted here is - "Parents Worship Day" and "Matru-Pitru Pujan Diwas" have two major differences- 1)First difference is Linguistic i.e. Language related, as Hindus who don't know Hindi/Sanskrit will refer Parents Worship Day page only. 2) Second difference is religion related- Matru-Pitru Pujan Diwas has celebration rituals specific to Hinduism, while Parents Worship Day has a wider context. Since this festival is celebrated by people of various religions.
1143:- Parents Worship Day and Matru Pitru Pujan Diwas, both pages depict relevant meaning to people who know different languages. Let's try to understand it via analogy: 1. and have same meaning, still we have different Wiki pages since "both terms" are relevant to different people with different ideologies. 2. , and have same meaning, still we have different Wiki pages for them because they are referred by different people in different contexts.
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English name and a Hindi name. For example, what different things do people do for Parents Worship Day that they don't do for Matri Pitri Pujan Diwas, or vice versa? And I don't think your analogies are very
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English-language Knowledge, and will refer to the English-language common name. The bigger problem is that you have to show the differences between the two articles – at the moment they both say that they were started by the same person,
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You said: "worship describes the general act of religious devotion, while puja describes the specific act of devotion in
Hinduism or Buddhism, including the rituals or customs specific to that religion" Similar meaning I want to convey, here "Parents Worship Day" describes the general act of
636:- I feel different words have its own importance. For hindi community it is more useful to have a page as "Matru-Pitru Pujan Diwas", whereas for the rest of the world it is beneficial to have the page as "Parents Worship day". So i feel no harm in having the two different pages. India}}
436:- I feel different words have its own importance. For hindi community it is more useful to have a page as "Matru-Pitru Pujan Diwas", whereas for the rest of the world it is beneficial to have the page as "Parents Worship day". So i feel no harm in having the two different pages.
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530:- Among Indians Hindi keyword is popular so for them easy to search n find information from "Matru pitru pujan diwas" page but for English speaking population the English keyword is popular so for them its easy to find and get information from "Parents worship Day" page.
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1085:. The Hindi name "Matru-Pitru Pujan Diwas" can have various spellings, so it is better to use the common English name and maintain a redirect. I do not really see any well cited unique content worth merging.--
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