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Muslims uncomfortable, but Islamic law was produced in a slaveowning, patriarchal society. It's also worth bearing in mind that most ancient and medieval societies were not particularly concerned with women's consent to sex: the position of Islamic law is not surprising in its historical context. This part of Islamic law is of no relevance to Islam today, because slavery has been abolished everywhere.
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Malik related to me from Ibn Shihab that gave a judgment that the rapist had to pay the raped woman her bride-price. Yahya said that he heard Malik say, "What is done in our community about the man who rapes a woman, virgin or non-virgin, if she is free, is that he must pay the bride-price of the
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