Talk:Main Page/Archive 102 - Knowledge (XXG)

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that a fan of American football who reads wikipedia might find themself to be strangely more intellectual than the bulk of the fans? Here in Australia we don't get upset when the universe doesn't revolve around us. We know it doesn't. It frequently appears to revolve around the US. (Who seem to see themselves as the only "us" in the world.) Its abundantly clear to me, having never read any wiki discussions before, and not being entirely aware of what an FA is inteaded to be... that the initiator of this discussion should be writing an article not whining about the lack of one. I'm going to make an unscientific hypothesis that all american football fans are illiterate and incapable of writing a decent article. Until someone writes one worthy of the front page, my hypothesis stands. Let's hope someone has the good sense to prove me wrong, instead of whinging about the fact that I suggested it.

2660:, I assure you that political correctness had nothing to do with this. We have also resisted attempts to misinform readers that "jihad" means a peaceful spiritual struggle or the like, in favor of clearly presenting the most historical and orthodox doctrine. Jihad is part of Islam, no question about it. Terrorism is not, except insofar as one argues it to be a lawful component of jihad. The most salient issue isn't actually attacks on civilians, though this is certainly debatable, but who has the right to declare jihad, and who is obliged to carry it out? Islamist terrorists state that anyone may declare jihad, and that all able Muslims are obliged to pursue it. Though not obviously un-Islamic, this stance is at least innovative and unorthodox. Still, we have refrained from stating that terrorism is 1340:). (It's not entirely clear to me, or presumably to whoever added the comment before them, exactly which div it is that they close, though.) The empty comments are used to comment out line breaks so that the edit screen can be made more readable without changing the appearance of the Main Page itself. The comments have no effect at all on the rendered result of the Main Page; the 'quicker loading time' effect you want wouldn't be achieved by removing it (it would give the page a microscopically quicker parsing time, but the main page is only reparsed at midnight UTC (for the change in the day's FA, etc.), when someone edits a template transcluded on it, or when someone purges the page; these events happen much less often than views of the Main Page. -- 5555:

Americans use soccer over Football due to the clash with American Football but lets see Football as most people around the world understand is kicking a ball and American Football is Thrown and Catched and not as occasionally kicked. Football originated in the UK yet American's Stole the name and then renamed UK Football to Soccer. So lets see... Britocentrism it may be to publish it as a main artical meaning we have more priority for it? Maybe if any american sport would live up to name not stolen would be used in a main artical. For Example Baseball or Basketball tho Baseball stole yet again from the British game of Rounders. Norwich is still renouned in the english speaking community which has a higher rate of football lovers.

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percentage of Muslims who are terrorists, and regardless of how long terrorism has been a problem within Islam, it's a very significant issue in Islam today and one that is worthy of at least a paragraph of it's own in the article. I recall reading that featured articles in wikipedia are supposed to be high-quality, complete articles. I don't understand how this article made the cut, unless one or more of the decision-makers wanted to spread a message about Islam. This is why I mentioned using wikipedia for propaghanda purposes. This is by no means an unbiased article that shows the full picture of what is a very significant religious group in the world today.

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articles appearing on the main page are continually improved by a variety of users due in part to their high profile. As for why media needs 'semi-protection' again in addition to what HowCheng has said about vandalism of shock pictures, there tends to be a far greater level of copyvios with media and media is also far more open to abuse (e.g. people using us as a file sharing site). Furthermore although we're not supposed to worry about performance, a large number of uploads of content which is going to be deleted is IMHO one thing we should worry about to some extent. Given the numerous issues, anon uploads of media is simply a bad idea

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hours at a time, like myself. It would be a lot more convenient if the background colour was black, or another dark colour. I hope the Knowledge (XXG) administrators say this so they can talk to the head people about it. I think it is a very good idea and I would think many people agree with me on this. After a while on this site my eyes feel painful and I'm sure many other people have experienced this as well. This is a suggestion to change the entire Knowledge (XXG) website, so I won't be surprised if nothing changes. I just think it would be a lot more convenient.

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that the reader can have an informed view of islam today. I am not implying that all or even many muslims are terrorists. But the fact of the matter is that most people in the world today would have never even heard of islam if it weren't for terrorists. How many readers here from western countries seriously knew much of anything about islam before all of the recent terrorist attacks? This is why it is a serious enough issue to warrant more of a mention; if not it's own paragraph, a sentance within the first few paragraphs of the article.

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same jpeg files as the big ones that are protected, although I assume they're protected too. Also interesting is the language used -- by an 850x356 image it may say "The image has been temporarily uploaded from the Wikimedia Commons and protected because it is, or shortly will be, on the Main Page". Is "on" the main page? Is linked from the main page. A thumbnail version that is a separate .jpeg file is actually on the main page. But the 850x356 (or whatever) jpeg itself is not actually on the main page. Strange choice of language.

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replaced with something irrelevant, scribbled on, or changed in misleading or POV-pushing ways, but that the article text will. The article text is the far more important to keep NPOV and reasonably accurate, not to mention intact, as it's the bread and butter of the article. The images are gravy. If I wanted to make an article misleading, or turn it into a big self-promotion, or push a POV, I'd start with the text and probably completely ignore the images altogether!

5857:Æthelberht of Kent? Agatha Christie? Birchington-on-Sea? Daspletosaurus? "But, wait" you say, "Daspletosaurus is a dinosaur. Isn't this just another case of a Americans confusing Dinocentism with Britocentrism." Not so fast, I respond. Who is associated with the Daspletosaurus? None other than Darren Tanke, the paleontologist from Alberta. And we all know Canadians are nothing more than French fur trappers and Brits hiding out in North America. 4448:, currently a high-profile article? There have been a few edit wars going on, revolving around whether Sochi is a Georgian or Russian city, and the addition of a biased and unsourced criticism section. After doing a little research, I can be reasonably certain that Sochi is in Russia, and I have removed the unsourced section. But I do not want to get involved in an edit war, nor do I want to protect a page that I have edited recently. Thanks all, 31: 1220:, but because the IRA used to conduct London bombings, there's enough sensitivity there to cause a big kerfluffle about it. Also, there's always going to be a media bias toward cities large and important enough to have large, important media organizations headquartered in them. More to the point, something that happens (semi-)routinely isn't going to be added to ITN because it won't have an article or update associated with it. -- 3714:. This is an international site with contributors from all over the world and the nationality of Jimbo is largely irrelevant. Non-Americans (yes there are people on wikipedia who don't come from the US or Europe believe it or not) shouldn't be upset because it is a featured article, a special request was put in (I assume) and this was accepted, as is and will be done with many other special requests. 1741: 3106:

one subject it will take us a while to get thru them. This same issue has been raised on so many times about oh so many things like cricket, Eurovision songs etc. I suggest you check out the archives for further discussion. Don't worry, it'll pass soon enough and a few weeks or months later have the next person complaining about waterfalls appearing in every DYK or whatever

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instantly disappears from my computer screen. The great thing about that trick is that I can use it as many times as I wish without affecting the other people who may have different reactions or perceptions as mine, as I know I am not the only one visiting this website every day. Let us know how this nifty trick works out for you. Sincerely.

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but some think that the crux of WW2 was the German Eastern front. That is, the fight between Germany and the Soviet Union. Certainly nobody could seriously contend that the Pacific theatre was the more important than the European one in terms of the nature and outcome of the war. So why the bias of featured articles towards the former?

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changes or even the user's contribution history, so vandalism via image tends to go unnoticed unless someone actually sees the vandalism and reports it. And you're wrong about the type of vandalism that happens to images on the Main Page; most of the time they're replaced by porn or some other image that many would find offensive.

1132:. Although in that case as I pointed out, the company who makes it would be particularly silly to want that article featured since it basically revealed their product is likely a load of crock (indeed even the main page blurb suggested it from memory). Also the current availability of the product is unclear 5186:

to write an article about your favourite American football team. Personally, I couldn't give a flip about the New York Anything or Norwich FC but at least one other person did care enough about the Norwich FC to make a FA so it was featured. BTW, you really, really need to learn how to use your terms

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to be like this. That's like saying "it's ok to break the law because people break the law": it's not an valid argument. Maybe the way the featured article is chosen is broken. It's a good point and brought up in the right way. Even if you don't agree you shouldn't pout and stamp your feet in the

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of it, when there are many many other great articles that can be featured. I don't want this to descend into yet another dull bun fight over systemic bias within Knowledge (XXG), but I think it is worth considering that too little correction is being made for the fact that many more good articles are

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I don't get why they don't just protect only the thumbnail. By analogy, the featured article is often not protected, though the text excerpted from it on the main page is (by virtue of being physically part of a protected page - the main page). Protecting the thumbnail but not the big version of some

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Why is it that articles linked from the main page (even the featured article itself) are generally not protected, and never simply BECAUSE they are linked from the main page, but images invariably are? I've double-checked -- the images actually inlined in the main page are thumbnails, and are not the

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The way things are rendering on my end, the FA is taking up less space than the news, thus leaving a noticeable gap under the DYK. This could be easily changed by adding an item to DYK, but the DYK headline wouldn't align with the On this Day... headline. Bringing this to someones attention to see if

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The percentage of terrorists that are muslim probably depends somewhat on the definition of 'terrorist' too. Certainly here in the U.S.A. the percentage is probably pretty low. Most of the terrorists you see on the news are anti-abortion fanatics, white supremisists, lone crazies like Tim McVeigh, or

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Anyone for an article on Australian Rules football? I think most Australians would just admit to being too lazy to write a feature article of a high standard... we'd rather just watch it on TV. I wonder if this trend indicates something about the social demographic of sporting fans? Is it possible

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What does it mean? It means that he is willing to bet some undetermined amount of money at even odds that the majority of native English speakers could not locate Norwich. It's probably a safe bet, since the overwhelming majority of native English speakers are here in the U.S.A. Personally, I know

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And P.S. Ice hockey is way more international than you give it credit for. Just because your country can't field a team or even individual players in any other sport besides for soccer and rugby, (BTW, since when was the last time England, Scotland and Wales ever won a world cup in either of those

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I presume someone who like you is interested in his buildings has recently started (and perhaps is still continouing) a whole bunch of articles about his buildings and has nominated them all. We usually try to avoid the same subject appearing twice on ITN in one shot so if there a lot of articles on

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Maybe it should be changed slightly? It reads "Two attempted car bomb attacks in central London are foiled by the Metropolitan Police." - is 'foiled' really correct? In my mind, that would mean that their intelligence lead them to intercept both cars before anyone else reported anything...as it was,

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Toby, I know exactly that feeling. Each and every times this happens to me, I use a simple trick that works just about every time. Whenever I feel some emotional distress due to a picture on the Knowledge (XXG) Main Page, I simply click on the back button of my browser, and the source of my distress

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Actually Knowledge (XXG) is censored to some degree. We don't want to have gratuitously offensive imagery on the Main Page. For example we wouldn't have Goatse as the featured picture. The problem is drawing the line. In this instance I would say that the image is acceptable, especially as it is

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Maybe we should just except that British history by its very nature is much longer - in terms of written history - and thus is going to have more featured articles dedicated to it...and that it shouldn't be an issue, I think...Agatha Christie is an international esteemed writer...I don't know where

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We last won the FOOTBALL world cup in 1966, but everyone seems to forget that football (soccer) is the most popular sport in the world. The only American sport to gain worldwide fame is basketball and I'd be the first to admit it's more popular than rugby and cricket by a mile. As for the language,

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Indeed that a vast amount of people may not know where Norwich is or even Manchester is, Tho Manchester United has one of the biggest fan basses in the world which include non native english speakers even non english speakers. But its sport which is understood by both english and non english alike.

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I'd just finish doing the counting and was going to make the point Walrus made but was beaten to the punch. Still I guess it's our fault. We should be working on articles that the majority of native English speakers want to read about and not articles that interest us or non-native English speakers

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Actually when it comes to non-native, it's far more difficult to make such a call. Since many Indians aren't particularly interested in football (let alone American football) and they make up a substanial proportion of the non native speaker list, there's a possibility more English speakers overall

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That's the beauty of the internet. You don't have to click on anything you don't want to. If you're offended or disturbed by the content of the article on ejaculation then don't open it in the first place. It always works for me. Not to mention that the images presented are only to be expected, and

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That's out of about 20 featured articles that are about WW2 battles. This isn't including WW2 military strategy and personalities, just battles. Does anybody else believe that this is grossly unrepresentative of the importance of the Pacific side of WW2? I know it's a contraversial thing to say,

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None of these "issues" would seem to detract from Knowledge (XXG)'s accuracy or neutrality. Most of them are only "issues" because an amazingly high proportion of the world's over-18 population is astoundingly immature about a variety of things, mostly to do with normal functions of the human body,

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Okay, I am willing to stipulate that 'yump' is a term of art (though the mention of it as such does not appear to have a source), and not intended as a slur. But I would definitely bet it has an etymology related to the scandinavian languages, and specifically how English-speakers perceive them. --

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Not to spoil anyones fun, but is it really appropriate to make fun of ethnicity on the main page? I am referring to the 'yump' line in the caption to the featured picture. I can think of several other ethnicities other than Swedish who would not be amused by a similar 'yoke' being directed at them.

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I too have been meaning to bring this up...but it's not until now that I've found the right spot. His building's look nice, but I don't see why they should appear (usually with picture) every day (almost). The 'did you know" section should be there to expose readers to new and different things, not

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The point is that if a rouge admin unprotects the Main Page, users still won't be able to edit it since it's cascade protected from Main Page/. Also, if an admin deletes the main page, all 10 of the backups will show saying: "This page has been protected to prevent recreation. An explanation may be

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Being on the main page, however, I have been *presented* with this emotional experience, without any choice; which I reject. Certainly articles themselves can contain graphic imagery, as necessary to their subject; but travelling to an article requires reading the article title which I have always

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BTW, the New York Jets have a split fanbase. They have to share the market and the state and even their stadium with the New York Giants, so they won't have that many fans. Not to mention, in the New York-New Jersey area, there are way more Giants fans than Jets fans because the Giants have been

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First of all, the thumbnail is automatically generated by the MediaWiki software based on the original image; there is no way to protect just the thumbnail itself while leaving the big image open for editing. The second reason is that changes to image files don't show up on watchlists or on recent

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delete 1 and unprotect 10. This could be done ten times over with time to spare before anyone could intervene, so I'm not entirely sure what the point of it is beyond stopping casual vandals who take advantage of an administrator who left themselves logged into a publicly accessible computer – and

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There are many sections of the Islam article which have external articles and still have a paragraph mentioning their importance. The word "terrorism" appears only once in the Islam article. This is a controversial issue within islam and should be highlighted, with *all* points of view given, so

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I posted the original comment on this page. I aplogoze that the comment was posted anonymously, I was not logged in. I understand everyone's argument, but again we must weigh the value of political-correctness vs. the value of giving people complete information on the subject. Regardless of the

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Dark text on white is way better on the eyes than bright text on black. It's my experience that bright text on black tends to play tricks on your eyes and in general makes everything look weird after a while. Try turning the brightness down on your screen. Although I must admit that adding a black

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More interesting than, that, this is the first time I've edited from an internet cafe. It seems that a few weeks ago, there was a sock puppet in this room! See the IP address when I sign. I'll have to remember to add this IP address to my user page and claim these three edits or so that I've made!

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Just thought you might be interested to know that Knowledge (XXG) was featured on the June 27, 2007 Daily Show, during Lewis Black's segment. He was humorously commenting on conservatives either buying perceived left wing organizations or starting alternatives, and used Knowledge (XXG)'s contrast

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I find this image associated with this article to be emotionally distressing. I do not like to see something so awful, where those men are literally in the act of dying. It is not visually graphic in the classic sense of gore and violence, but it most certainly is graphic to me, because I cannot

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was a featured article, you or anyone else could put in a request for it to be featured on Super Bowl sunday, or Christmas Day, or your birthday, or whatever date of your choosing. Our featured article director will consider this request and especially if there were a good reason (e.g. Super Bowl

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Technically a public domain image is IMHO freer from a copyright sense of view (although I'm sure some GPL/GFDL fans may beg to differ) however I agree the change was inappropriate and unnecessary (and also against policy). Any free image is suitable and when the image is clearly free there is no

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I've searched the site for about an hour trying to figure out where to say this, but I couldn't find any so I am saying it here. I believe it would be a very good idea to change the Knowledge (XXG) background to black, the colour white is horrible on the eyes and some people are on this site for

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Comapared to what ends up on the news, this is not even all that bad. On the news and cable channels, one can regularly see car accidents, plane crashes, shootouts, crime scenes, etc. There are TV advertisemnts that include videos of the 9/11 tragedy or the Kennedy assassination. The main page is

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those that would overreact instead of calmly reverting it. Aside from the one that's an "issue" due instead to the abomination known as copyright law, which really boils down to immaturity in various quarters too when you come to think of it. OK, now I've said something controversial, and if I'm

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The OED lists it as an "Alteration of JUMP v., repr. the supposed pronunciation of it by Swedish speakers or the Norw. jump jump (n.), jumpe jump (vb.).", which I suppose could be interpreted as mocking the Sweidish accent, although I'm not sure it is particularly offensive (and isn't flagged as

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Proab wrote: "The most salient issue isn't actually attacks on civilians"- this goes against the rules of warfare in Islam. What Proabivouac believes he has resisted is the modern interpretations of Jihad. Yes, he hasn't let the range of the modern views (held by modern Muslim authorities) to be

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It is troubling to see that wikipedia is running a featured article about islam, and this article contains almost no mention of terrorism. This is very clearly bias. While I am not suggesting that the article should say that all muslims are terrorists, the fact of the matter is the majority of

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write it. My whole point was that if you want an article about some random American football team, it is your resonable to get it up to FA. I don't care what team that is. The only reason I choose the New York Jets was because they're the first one I spotted on the American football page. Don't

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with some NFL teams. But as Nil Einne says, and as people keep stating each time the "this doesn't deserve to be on front page" argument is brought up, the decision is based on the quality of the article, not the subject of it. Certainly, I'd be willing to bet that more English (and even native

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So since when does a local British Association Football team (Sorry, I and 3 quarters of the native English speaking world will NEVER call that game simply "football") team get a link on the main article and the Superbowl, one of the world's most broadcasted events doesn't even get a mention on

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I've never known wikipedia to censor controversial topics from articles; in fact, I always thought of wikipedia as a place where the controversial topics are clearly highlighted, and generally relay two points of view to the reader. This is a clear case of censorship and not conveying a clear,

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Those are old vidoe games – hell, FF6 never even came stateside, ever. They are also very niche products. On the other hand, these articles are of commerical products that are still being sold, with a fairly wide audience, which is why people raise a ruckus when they appear on the front page.

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When it comes to the reason for protection, the key point in addition to what howcheng has already said that it is rare that an image can be improved anyway. And many of the improvements that can occur (e.g. making a SVG, cropping) should not immedietly replace the original image. However many

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Is there some sort of extra level of paranoia about images being vandalized? It's also the case that ALL images are apparently effectively semi-protected, unalterable without registering. This seems rather an excessive level of paranoia, given that the bigger threat isn't that an image will be

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Well, not as many people know about the site notice page, so someone not experienced with Knowledge (XXG) who logs on and finds the little delete button won't know that they could just mess with the site notice. And about the other part, then maybe we should make more Main Page/#'s. Maybe 100?

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saying: "At no point do the basic texts of Islam enjoin terrorism and murder. At no point — as far as I am aware — do they even consider the random slaughter of uninvolved bystanders." As you can see Proab's position is very clear. He has by no means taken an middle-ground position. There is a

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points more towards East-Asian-war-picture-centrism (Chinese casualty in the Korean war, Child soldier in Vietnam war, Chinese Child Soldier) and American-list-centrism (List of counties in Maryland, List of New Jersey Devils head coaches, List of Chicago landmarks, List of New Jersey Devils

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P.S. In another place Lewis says: "Usama Bin Ladan and his followers may not represent Islam, and many of their statements and actions directly contradict the Islamic principles and teachings, but they do arise from within Muslim civilization, just as Hitler and the Nazis arose from within

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I consider it unfortunate that you (like admittedly many others) believe Islamic terrorism has more than a trivial connection with a religion that shapes the daily life of 1/4th of the world's population. It's not political correctness, it is just that Islamic terrorism is not relevant to

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You're right in that July 2nd is the date when it truly happened. That said, the fourth is the "official" date, even appearing on the Declaration itself. OTD policy is usually to keep things to one date per event, and under the circumstances, the fourth really is the better day to list

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And no, it does not bother me, and if it is up to me, do keep it there by all means, but do give the matter some thought. Is it appropriate in this case but not in some others, or is it not appropriate equally no matter which ethnicity is being made fun of, good naturedly or not. --

244:) as to whether the image has appropriate licensing in the first place. As far as the actual content goes, I have no problem with it; It illustrates the subject of the article, and it's not deliberately shocking or gory, either of which would be inappropriate for the main page. -- 5813:

it states outside the US there aren't any professional squads...Its rarely shown on television...But I do accept that showing the best articles on the front...Anyways, Britocentism? If there were more articles on the front about Dinosaurs would you say there was Dinocentism (or

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This has nothing to do with "political-correctnesss". Articles are supposed to present the subject in a historical context; this nonsense about talking about "the world today" is just that, nonsense. If you want up-to-the-minute information about current events, I recomment

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part of Islam: this entire discussion is recentist and not nearly as core to Islam as such objections suggest. The Jihad section is hardly a whitewash. What it isn't is recentist, politicized or tendentious. I invite anyone here to remove that ridiculous tag atop the

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Don't you liberal Wikipedians know that putting a picture of a women in a bra on the main page will scare any child for life! Knowledge (XXG) is obviously run by liberals, trying to destroy children's innocencr and Jimbo Wales probly gives all his money to Hillary

3961:-- much less in need of regular updating or tweaking and much more capable of causing mayhem -- harder to trace mayhem and multiplied by every article that uses the template, directly or via other templates. Yet a ton of templates aren't even semi-protected ... 2362:. That said, recent events make up a tiny portion of a history that's over 1300 years long and don't belong in the blurb. If you want to refer to this as "propaganda", you're welcome to set up a site to talk report about how most terrorists are Muslim, but 2798:.....". In other words, a rouge admin would have to unprotect 11 pages and delete 11 pages to actually cause chaos. With tabbed browsing, this is possible, but without, by the time they get done with doing all that, they will already have been desysopped. -- 5112:

I realise that many American sports (ice hockey, baseball e.t.c) are popular outside of the US. Hell, I like many of them myself. I realise that there is more to the US than New York. I've visited the US many times, and none of those times have been to New

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Someone once told me (with their tongue piercing through their cheek), that Independence Day is the only American holiday celebrated more strongly in the United Kingdom than it is in the US. I didn't believe him, however, as he didn't provide a pie-chart.

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Wait a second, I think if you read the original post here its argument is that we ought to select articles based on their content and that the content's bias ought to be minimised. It's one thing to state (in large, shouting letters, very immature) that

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They are also very niche products. On the other hand, these articles are of commerical products that are still being sold, with a fairly wide audience, which is why people raise a ruckus when they appear on the front page. hbdragon88 06:35, 28 June 2007

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the occasional eco-terrorist. Most people I've talked to about this try to tell me that you're a terrorist if you throw a bomb at a U.S. tank, if you use that silly definition, then the terrorist population is just a factor of where we put our tanks.

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Criterion number 3: "It should be a story of an international importance, or at least interest." And I believe that the original post was a comment on the weird selectivity of media and the society rather than a complaint about the inclusion of this

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Even money says that the majority of the world's native English speakers in the world don't give a flying fuck about English Association Football (Not football, association football) nor have heard of Norwich FC nor even know where Norwich is.

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Firstly, you can change the background yourself, if you create an account... Secondly, black backgrounds are absolutely horrible. If we were forced to use such an atrocity, I and probably many other people would never use wikipedia again.

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Well it's there now but is there any particular reason all of you thought it a good idea to discuss that here rather then ITN/C where it should take place & I had already directed people and the discussion was already taking place?

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Maybe we could have the background as the US flag and have all the links to Republican Party...Or we could just have a mixture...Just to inform the American's that American Football could hardly be called a world sport, in fact in the

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That's only an issue when running at really low resolution, or viewing the Main Page from a very small window. Pretty much anything above 640x480, and you have the first four on the left of the page, and the other four on the right.

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sunday) he's probably grant it. But it's not even a good article... So instead of complaining about nothing, I suggest you get working on making Super Bowl a featured article. Also, I still don't get why only native speakers matter

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I'm a native speaker of southern English English, and I pronounce 'again' as /ə.gɛn/ or as /ə.geɪn/ depending on whim and rhyme scheme. It's always a schwa at the start though, so I take issue with a-gayn as a phonetic rendering.

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Also, is it possible to make the cursor go directly to the search box when opening Knowledge (XXG)? For example, if you go to Google, you can immediately begin typing your query because the cursor is already in the search box.

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Anyways, if we're going to put a page from some some minor British city's local soccer team on the main page (Norfolk city is 150 K strong) we should start putting up a minor US city's minor league baseball team (Like the

4505:"Bayonet Consitution" isn't the name given to the article, which says it's a name adopted by the opponents. Not endorsing the consitution, just saying maybe this anniversary item should be rethought in light of NPOV. -- 5909:

As a mammal I am tired of all these featured articles on are scaly skinned half-cousins!!! (And don't even get me started on insects!!!)...More articles on White Middle-class Mammalian Londoners please! Your sincerely,

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Shouldn't something about the Petrol Rationing riots in Iran be included in the 'In the News" section? I've created an article about the riots which I edited into the reference to the riots on the Current Events page.

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Because the figures work out conveniently if only native English speakers are counted? Besides, they're hardly a "local" team, when every football fan in the country (and many outside of it) has heard of the team. The

2513:. This article is linked to from the article on Islam. Most "terrorists" are Muslims. Most Muslims are not terrorists. Therefore, there does not need to be an entire section in the article on Islam, about terrorism. -- 3094:

hi all, first of let me state i like Frank Lloyd Wright's work, the 'water fall' hoose is a favourite, but what is it with the near constant (ok not constant, but you get my drift) mentioning of FLW buildings in DYK?

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need to consider which one is 'freer'. In terms of ITN and probably all of the main page, there should never be the need to replace one image with a 'freer' one since an unfree image should never be on the main page

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is a word for British which I am not. As such, calling me pommie other then being insulting makes no sense. I generally find when you're going to go on a rant it helps to actually know what you're talking about...

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There is something about the line, "The 2012 Summer Olympics bids comprised bids by nine cities to host the 2012 Summer Olympics." that dosen't sound right. I think it should be "comprised of bids by nine cities".

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centred on the Western world. When choosing the 'featured article' consideration must be made of whether, because of the uneven distribution of technology, internet access and population in the world, such a bias

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As I recall (and I may be mistaken), the idea came about after the last "rouge admin" episode. The idea being, in the event anything were to happen to the main page, it could be quickly restored from one of these

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in the article on Islamist terrorism happened 35 years ago. As for highlighting the issue, with all points of view given, this is when we tend to split a section off into its own article, as is the case here.

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Glare on screens is bad for the eyes, as is dark text on light backgrounds. Light text on dark backgrounds, with no glare, is the best for your eyes if you're planning on staring at a computer screen 24/7. —

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I did mention that at the end of my comment. Yes, purging can be done as many times as desired. (Thanks for giving the link to the appropriate page, though; I forgot to link the relevant word in my comment.)

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Okay guys, this thread was off topic from the beginning and has now skewed into specific article content. This talk page is supposed to be about discussing the Main Page, so please take this discussion to

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on the current incarnation of this page alone. I dread to think how many times it's been dragged out and beaten to death in the archives. (Anyone feel like making the above big text into a template?) –

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You still seem to be missing the point entirely. If you want an article about the New York Giants or the New York Jets or the New York Idiots or whatever your favourite American football team is, then

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who cares, it's all understandable. We used to speak German and French and the language has just evolved, but the thing I want to make clear is that England speaks Engliah and U.S.A speak U.S English

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There is no correct form, what is more important is A) What she prefers and B) What is the most common form used in English language publications. In any case, this should be discussed elsewhere like

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Not to nitpick, but FF6 never came stateside? Sure it did. The article says it was released in North America on (SNES)Oct '94, (PS) Sep '99, and (GBA)Feb '07. You may be confused because it wasn't

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Has anyone ever heard of a book called Strike of Lightning by a Randy Prince? I've read it and it is a good book for young children. Do you think a page for this book can be put on Knowledge (XXG)?

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I noticed that on the main page said that "1776 – The Continental Congress of the Thirteen Colonies in British North America approved a Declaration of Independence" which is wrong, technically the

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Depends on intent I guess. If this photo were part of a series leading up to the model removing the garment in question, I supppose it'd be categorised as pornography. Since it's not, it's not :)

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Overriding page style sheets does change pages and create various problems, especially on pages that you are looking at for the first time. If necessary I just turn the page style sheet back on.

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is a featured article and was chosen based on quality not content. If you work on some other article about some bizzare American Football club that most of the world doesn't care about (like the

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Due to internal issues, the main page is temporarily unavailable. Other pages are unaffected, and the main page will return shortly. In the meantime, you may view one of the backups linked below.

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you guys are hypocrites, telling people to not post info that has nothing to do with the main page and here 9/10 of you guys were speaking about stuff that had nothing to do with the main page.

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in the user's contribution history. Uploads are also displayed in Recent Changes – in fact all log entries are (new accounts, deletions and so forth). Look for lines beginning with the text "(

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The omission of the dot creates confusion because without the dot between help and contents it is not clear that there are two entries, "help" and "contents" as opposed to one, "help contents"

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Tell a Canadian, a Scandinavian or a Russian that Ice Hockey is an "American" sport. They'll beg to differ. Ok, I'll give you rugby, but.... when's the last time you guys won in soccer? ;)

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The spanish version of Knowledge (XXG) finally reaches 250,000 articles - can someone update the languages part at the bottom of the main page of English Knowledge (XXG)? ¡Muchas gracias!

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terrorists in the world today are followers of this religion. Knowledge (XXG) should be in the business of reporting facts and unbiased knowledge, it should not be an arena for propaghanda.

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I read the comment about Britocentrism on Knowledge (XXG) and laughed. That is, until I looked at the "Featured content" page and sobered up. Look at the three prominently featured items:

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Instead, I solve the problem for myself. I use Opera as my browser with my own style sheet with a black background and light yellow text and Georgia Ref font, a really good screen font.

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about as censored as cable news networks. While we may have somethings like I mentioned, we would not have anything like pornography or anything unnecessarily obscene on the main page.

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Hmmm... given the amount of reversion of trolling there has been in this section recently, and how it is just over a fortnight old, perhaps it's time that this is manually archived? --

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From memory, the discussion about disallowing fair use images on the main page hadn't quite reached consensus at that stage which may have been why the image was allowed at that time.

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If you know anyone who's hotter than that woman, take a pic of her wearing a wonderbra then upload it here. That pic is too wholesome to shock even newborns who breastfeed all day. --

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What in the world is that graph supposed to represent? A graph with absolutely no description as to what is means is completely useless. If anything, you've weakened your position.

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ITN works on suggestions, the reason something is not included is either because no one has suggested it yet or because the Knowledge (XXG) article on the subject does not meet the

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Yet the behavior of Knowledge (XXG) is apparently to regard image tampering as the greater threat, to judge by the greater attention paid to defending images versus article text.

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Please, consider featuring Frida Kahlo tomorrow on her 100 birthday. I was looking for a better place to submit this proposal but I couldn't find it. Thank you. RC, New York.

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He did not step down. He had converted to catholicism in secret while visiting the Pope and the MI5 had him sacked because of that. Catholics have limited right in the islands.

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Do you think this is too much or do you think that in the in the news it should mention that Tony Blair is stepping down from being prime minister today? (Not a typo above).

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I doubt, if the featured article was for example suicide, there would be chosen an image of someone actually killing themselves; it would be considered obviously offensive.

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Why are we acting so immaturely? It's as if no one's ever seen a bra before. And if you haven't, that only shows how uncool you are—go out and gape at some RIGHT NOW!!!! --

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I remember hearing the same complaints when that pregnancy test appeared on the Main Page, or some coffee brand (Afghanistan?) also appeared on the Main Page. Good times.

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Aminz, I agree completely with Lewis' statement: the texts of Islam say nothing about terrorism, nor do they "even consider the random slaughter of uninvolved bystanders."

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How do you do this, as accents have been missed off a name. These occurrences in the text have been rectified but I do not know how to rename the article in general.

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It is a featured article so I hope so. Kind of interesting that people complain of adverstisement when articles like wonderbra appear but don't see any problems with

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Which means that there will still be a number of fair use images on the FA templates dating before March 2007 because nobody has yet bothered to go through each one

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that new breed of American conservatives who bravely fight terror by sitting at their termninals coming up with new ways to insinuate that leading liberals are gay

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I suggest most of the two empty divs, and the hidden messages to which they refer be removed for a quicker loading time. If it breaks it, you can always revert -

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Those of you that, like me, use Macs (there must be at least one ot there somewhere :), you can hit ctrl-option-command-8 to invert your colors on the screen.

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However, I must be able to go to the main page without the risk of such unpleasentness, because it is impossible to reconnaitre the main page before viewing!

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I agree entirely its on BBC, Sky and other news channels are reporting live. It should be added and linked in with the london attempted car bombs yesterday.

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Well that strikes me as more than sufficient reason for making it a featured article, obviously something many people have a connection to and interest in.

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The real Picture of the Day is the risque one in today's featured article. It surprised me to see Knowledge (XXG) display pornography on its front page.

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Of course, the only reason why there are so many (soccer) FAs and so few American football ones is because Wikipaedia is secretly controlled by FIFA. --

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The article does mention terrorism in the aforementioned section with a good link to Islamic terrorism. An entire section on terrorism is unwarranted.

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one was an eyewitness account (of a smoking car? I'm not quite sure), and the other was towed away before the company realized there was a bomb inside.

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Whatever the reason, I really do think that sixteen an out-of-proportion figure when compared with the proliferation other, similar, featured articles.

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Heh heh . . . the strange, paranoid, ignorant comments have been ridiculed to insignificance. I love Knowledge (XXG)! We need more of this . . . :) --

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if they weren't there, then the text descriptions would be almost as "offensive." Censorship isn't what's called for here; it's personal restraint.

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American football FA has been on the front page! Why hasn't every (soccer) FA been on the front page? I call Americocentrism on Knowledge (XXG)! --

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in the news section. This is a huge concert airing in over 140 different countries with some of the most famous singers in the world performing.

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Honestly, who cares about city status in the UK? Or lists of insects in Britain? It only got worse when I looked at the new featured content:

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right about the average maturity of supposedly-adult human beings, instead of calm consideration occurring the flames will now commence ... :)

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I'm not so sure about that. I bet it has very little, if any etymology of racism. I'm interested to see if you can find a source on that.

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misconception about the relation of Islam and terrorism. Due to Proab's efforts, the article doesn't say anything about the misconception.--

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Sorry, but its like this very often. It changes once a day (more than that in DYK's case), so there's not really any point bringing it up.

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When you search Chris Benoit on Google, his image comes up about the edit thing. Has wikipedia been notified about the Benoit edit thingy?

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I do not know if this was discussed before (god I hope it was). Aren't fair use images disallowed on the main page? So why has one used in

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background interface to the user preferences would be a welcome addition; the default scheme is pretty much the only one worth using IMO.

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if you want news on a wiki model. The purpose of the ITN section is to highlight current events articles that have recently been updated.

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The graph is the percentage of native English speakers. Which ignores all English speakers who don't speak English as a native tongue. --

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Or not. Interestingly, Conservapedia doesn't make any mention at all of terrorism in their Islam article (though it is a lot shorter).

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Eh, the news is often a bit scattered in relation to events; we can't post a blurb about everything happening in the world right now :).

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Featured articles are chosen for their quality, not their subject. The day's featured article is selected from those which are featured.

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In the Bush commuting Scooter Libby's sentence, can you put a link to the page that has the story? All the links are for other stuff.

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Perhaps this should be included in the news now? CNN is reporting that it is very likely a deliberate attack. What do people think?--

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My compliments on the fine advertisement for Wonderbra. I suppose we shall soon be seeing an article on Victoria's Secret PINK (TM).

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Money says that most native English speakers don't know where Norwich is? What does that even mean? This guy's clearly had a few. --

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I'm certainly not a prude, but I do think some of the articles should be censored, have you seen the photo and video on the article

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were comprised of bids'. Which of those is preferred is a matter of choice, but generally active voice is preferred over passive. --

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sports?) doesn't mean the sport isn't international. Other countries play other sports besides for rugby, soccer and cricket too.

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Oooooo that's funky, I like it! I've gotten tired of the white background. It's like a war room. Perfect for hunting vandals. :-)

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incident? I know they aren't in any known relation, but being so close, people are thinking that they are in relation, much like

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I hate to interrupt this moving discourse, but where is "again" pronounced "agayn." I pronounce it /ə.gɛn/ but that's just me.

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Wait.. The featured picture as well? And "On this day"? Never mind my MP, I'm writing a letter straight to the Prime Minister,

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heyyy, well i think this page is very informational whoever did it, awesome job! thanks -- Michelle Shaw july 5, 2007 12:37PM

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09:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC) --Could someone just tell me how to kill a Domo-kun? I don't want to have to kill a kitten to do it

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It might be a little hard to get used to at first, but it definitely puts less strain on the eyes (light text on dark bg). —

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reasons, I did wonder as I transferred the article from my sandbox whether it would raise any complaint on the Main Page :)

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I've been following CNN for a few hours and was wonderring if we should consider adding the 29th's London Bomb Scare to the

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is, is not because we're saying that (soccer) is better than baseball, and not because we're saying that the population of

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Don't get me wrong, the Pacific war was important and deserves to be extensively convered, but I think it is wrong to have

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Gosh no, we have too many as is. There even had to be a special case in the cascade protection notice just for this page.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I suppose you are correct. I guess we may need to wait for them to find the perpetrator before making any connections, eh?

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Probably because there's more (soccer) featured articles than there are American football ones. For (soccer), we've got:

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This talk page is an appropriate venue to discuss the choice of featured article, which is exactly what they were doing.

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Unless you could maybe out a link in the Toolbox saying Invert "Colours" or soso, but the Default should still be white,

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And so I discover the main page cannot be edited, nor it is immediately apparent how one goes about making the request.

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is probably a better example since I reckon fewer native and more non-native speakers have heard of him then Norwich FC

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That's not how it goes Duckman, re-read every single b3ta.com entry to catch up --Monotonehell 09:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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What racial slur were you referring to? I can't find any info on yump as one. You might want to add it to wiktionary

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Knowledge (XXG) is clearly biased against non-native English speakers, as can be seen from the discussion above. :p

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No, just the "Did you know..." section. That's why it has the "From Knowledge (XXG)'s newest articles:" subtitle.

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Then we need some fixed blankspace added there to separate 'Help' from 'Contents' for people with small screens. --

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You get used to reading text on all sites with a nice, large, uniform, distinct, print quality non-pixilated font.

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I was responding to your comment, not Brian's. I'm sorry if the indentation wasn't sufficient to make that clear.

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And as for the last time either England, Scotland or Wales won a world cup in either rugby or (soccer)? How about

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Anyone else find it odd that real bombs go off daily and kill dozens, but an unexploded one makes all the news? —

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Forgive me fellow Americans, but I would hardly call todays featured article random, considering 4 July is here.

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Should Knowledge (XXG) endorse the "kerfuffle" and the "media bias"? ITN requires more than an updated article.--

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This sort of request is more suited for the village pump or wherever as it has nothing to do with the main page

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I've never understood people who use black backgrounds. Have you ever tried turning on the lights in your room?

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Actually, we won't be doing any product placement in the near future. If you're interested though, you can ask

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But why mention only native English speakers? Knowledge (XXG) isn't only for native English speakers, it's for

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I'm trying to say that some European people shouldn't be upset about the July 4th mention because, the website

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Knowledge (XXG)'s for facts, not speculation. There is currently no published evidence linking the two events.

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FF6 when it first came out.(I'm pretty sure the GBA one that came out this year is correctly titled, though.)

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Bazza's sentance is better as the words, 2012, Summer Olympics, and bids only appears once in the sentence.

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understanding Islam, any more than bombings at abortion clinics are useful to understanding Christianity.

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I believe RC meant a mention of her birthday in the Selected Anniversaries section, not the TFA section.

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there should be a little dot between help and contents, like between all the other entries on the line.

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It would be nice if someone with the time could make ten or so more themes to suit what mood I'm in :)

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It is linked on the main page, in first news story. Therefore I posted my message here (as well as on

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Forgive me, Tourskin, it should be obvious that the TFA was not chosen randomly, considering today is

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12:56 PST The photo is Hatshepsut, but the text still claims that it is Gordon Brown who is pictured.

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Is it possible to make Knowledge (XXG) Main Page your Homepage? Please get back to me on my Talkpage

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The main page is transcluded to Main Pages/1 through to Main Page/10, just wondering what these are?

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reflected there (Why one might ask?). What Proab has removed regarding "terrorism" was a quote from

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Actually that has nothing to do with it. It doesn't matter whether Jimbo Wales is an American or a

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If you create an account you can edit the style Knowledge (XXG) appears in however you would like.

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Christendom, and they too must be seen in their own cultural, religous, and historical context."--

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This should definitely be on the main page. This is much worse than the London incident yesterday.

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Well you shouldnt have had the picture fullsize on your screen and your hands in your pants then.

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I'd just change it myself, but I can't figure out how to edit the main page or whether I can.--

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Not to the reporter, his family, his employer or anyone who believes in journalistic freedom.

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image would be the logical equivalent. Yet the big version gets protected too, unlike the FA.

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Yes, I assume that it was actually Knowledge (XXG) editors who first noted what happened. See

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on the article's talk page, and from the wording it sounds like an all-too-common meme among

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A wonderful neologism, Britocentricism, and one that I assume refers to anglocentricism.

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It isn't and never has been one of the world's most broadcasted events. Compelte myth.

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The article is not up to that standard, and tomorrow already has a featured article. --

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including everyone that would cause the type of vandalism you seem to worry most about

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My best regards for feature the exquisite "Starry Night" as POTD. Kudos to everyone! --

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Hurry and watch here. (Windows Media Player required) BBC News 24 - Live Broadcast. --

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This page is not meant for general questions, nor discussions about specific articles.

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It doesn't really sound like the bombs were directly stopped by the police at all. --

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established longer. And by the way, you know our entire country isn't in New York.

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It is a waste to put these special cases in, and this won't stop anyone determined.

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BTW, I'm pretty sure we mentioned the Super Bowl on ITN after the results were out

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make my British side a little happy. Who is the primeminister again? Happy July 4!!

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in its Islam article). Essentially, I'd refer you (the anonymous user, I mean) to

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players). By the way, you were joking, were you not? It's quite hard to tell...

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the day's featured article is based on the quality of the article, not its subject

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Rule of thumb - if you can see it in the sears catalogue, it's probably not porn.

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The only thing we don't have is a record of image uploads on watchlists. This is

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Possibly "...I speak English with a southern English accent" is what was meant.

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Anyway, as people keep mentioning, things are chosen for the front page for the

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about this, and will be writing a letter to my local MP in a matter of hours. --

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I think they're supposed to help protect the main page from deletion/vandalism?

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Because it's a recently created article. And its inclusion doesn't seem to be

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Now is time for you and your mates to improve other battle-related articles. --

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Ohfercryingoutloud, not another Romanian academic and poet on the front page.

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Again, I call Britocentrism on Knowledge (XXG). Or should I say, Wikipaedia.

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the article on Norwich City F.C. is higher quality than that on Norfolk Tides

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complete picture for the sake of being politically correct. Truly a shame.

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Given how often queries of this kind comes up, I'm surprised no-one's made a

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The TFA is about the quality of the article, not the subject of the article.

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Nonsense, the article about Samuel Adams was pure coincidence? I think not!

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Jimbo doesn't have anything to do with TFA. If you want to bug someone, bug

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So they use those products, which means they're not advertisements. Get it?

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THANK YOU WHOEVER CHOSE THIS PICTURE, YOU JUST MADE A YOUNG MAN VERY HAPPY

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articles about (soccer). Meanwhile, for American football, there are only

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that don't have pictures. If you found that image distressing, there are

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at all since it's actually quite a well-written and referenced article.

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I made this inquiry as a sanity check. Thank you. (I feel sane yes :P) --

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couldn't be on the front page, apart from the article isn't good enough.

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Please put that Alan Johnston has been released and it's breaking news!

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Wow... wonderbra... just when I thought wiki couldn't sink any lower :|

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That would actually be wrong. It should be either '<plural noun: -->

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Sorry about the typo on the month :) I'll look into adding it there.

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Does anybody know how many Pacific WW2 battles are featured articles?

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bias, you don't see as many cricket or ice hockey topics on there :p

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God kills a domo-kun. Please, won't someone think of the domo-kuns??

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WP:ERRORS#Errors in the Main Page summary of Today's featured article

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Tides.) Norfolk, Virginia is larger in population than Norfolk, UK.

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I'm aware of that but it still has nothing to do with the main page

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space station. Further proof that Knowledge (XXG) is communism. ---

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every time you think of the children, God kills another one of them

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This discussion has also been developed and is in fact more suited

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So find some Wikipedians (preferably female) who would be models.

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If anything seriously needs to be semi-protected by default, it's

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I'm thinking it's time for this now-pointless discussion to end...

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Heaven forbid the front page be relevant! What ever will we do? –

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I'll repeat myself. How can it be censorship of a subject when we

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is how it's done, but it fails to answer the point that it ought

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plz put hatshepsut back in. i dont wanna see some ugly britain.--

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English) speakers have heard of Norwich City than have heard of

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I wasn't signed in when I posted that. It's me; I'm not hiding.

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Surely more important that some reporter who was released??!???!

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Not to be politically correct but,... this *is* the main page...

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Nasty joke aside, I really can't see why the image was changed.

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There should also be a "Suggestions" page or something similar.

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with Conservapedia as an example, citing each site's article on

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You forgot the mandatory "SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN" line.

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itself, which is essentially a "recent uploads" page, but also

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Which is the correct form in English (as oppose to the Serbian

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is under GFDL and CC, I'm not sure why it was deemed invalid.--

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Oh, ok, makes sense I guess. I'm still new to all this stuff.

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class, many, many years ago. Again, what you are proposing is

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You are right about black providing best possible background.

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while you were typing that message. Which is a good thing. --

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help but imagine what they were going through at that point.

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What's a superbowl - some kind of special supper-dish? :p --

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I love this monobook.ccs the white hurts after a few hours.

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To ask for help with using and editing Knowledge (XXG), use

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version of the main page will have a strong American bias (

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Oh wait, so what's on the maing page are all new articles?

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I think this should be discussed in the proper place, i.e.

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82.131.210.162, this is not the place for such discussion.

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exactly where Norwich is. It's right here in Connecticut.

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Or some government official having his sentence commuted.

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I agree, but I am British. I'll look into the matter now.

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Post-script: I just watched the video, and it is vile...

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From memory the most recent comparison is probably with

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featured articles that might similarly disturb you. --

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Ah ok. They are protected so only admins can fix them.

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I think it may be time for you to start working then.

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AS SUCH, I have removed the image from the main page.

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Birchington-on-Sea is, so It's interesting to know...

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Everytime you kill a kitten, God kills a Domo-kun. --

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I saw Slayer, so you know they taped it yesterday :)

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found sufficient to give me choice over my decision.

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English spoken by southern English people, perhaps?

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on Christmas. Theme. Enjoy it. Love it. Embrace it.

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