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since "al-Ashtar" was an appellation and not his father's name. I have mentioned this in the article, but I don't know how to make the change to the title, nor do I know how to do this for the Arabic language part where his name his written again as "Malik ibn Ashtar" which is incorrect. Any
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The only available one is "monarch" while this can (kind of) apply to Emirs and
Sultans it absolutely cannot apply to the office of Caliph or Caliphate. These are two extremely different terms and it's important to recognize this as such. A monarch is one that is bound by a constitution or is
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