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mistaken for vandalism. But I don't think Plingsby should have reinstated the tags a second time without opening a discussion with you. If the two of you cannot reach an agreement, the procedures in Dispute resolution are the way to go, rather than descending into an edit war. One point: the quality of the references would be much easier to determine if they were better formatted, according to the methods in referencing for beginners (I prefer to use the templates such as
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Since I last "contributed" to this "article" a lot of people much more clever than I have inserted their "two-pennorth" into the discussion. I take all of your points on board (and actually, I shall probably not make any further contributions to this article). There have been two (and possibly three)
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I agree the page needed cleaning up and it appears to have been a lot by me and others. I can't see any references to primary sources now or that there is only one contributor with a close connection, as many have contributed. I'm relatively new to editing but shouldn't the 'Multiple Issues' header
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8 is 8 too many. If you wish this article to remain here, you are going to need to tidy it up a lot (and preferably have it written by a third party). I suggest that articles about minor politicians are inappropriate in here, unless they are particularly notable/noteworthy, which does not appear to
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I've been through the article and formatted the references so we can evaluate them. I've also been checking the refs, and tagging or removing them as required. The result is ugly, and not the way I like to work - there are a lot of failed verification tags. I guess next we should look at removing
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and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the
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Hello, Merv96. You and Plingsby seem to be having an ongoing content dispute about this article. I see you have opened a discussion on the talk page, which is the right thing to do. I notice that your removals of the tags were done with no edit summary, which often makes deletions liable to be
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Only 8 of the 42 references are from Mr Versallion's web site; low for a living person biography. 81% of the references are from other neutral sources. He is an elected politician whose biography is expected to be in the public domain and furthermore is made available by various neutral
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re: "But I don't think Plingsby should have reinstated the tags a second time without opening a discussion with you." above: You'll note on Merv96's talk page that I did offer a "sensible approach" to this article that would not start an edit war. Mr. Versallion has not yet
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sock puppet writers here. This is a VERY bad wiki entry. Mr Versallion may (just about) warrant a wiki entry. Knowledge should be about information and not political self-aggrandisement. Anyway, I'll stick with the majority verdict....
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please don't copy-paste people's postings out of context, without attribution, and in places they may not even have on their watch list. What you should have done is post a link to the Tea House section where Colin said that.
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is the way to go. Links to the subject's own website are perfectly reasonable to support non-contentious facts. If you think that parts are peacocky, please identify them specifically. All the best:
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to be covered, but that information on them needs to be available from reliable sources. In this case, acceptable sources clearly are available. The page should be shorter.
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I also notice that many of the references are to Mr Versallion's own website and one at least to his linkedin page. Completely out of order.
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If I couldn;t verify the ref, like that one and the Times reference, I left them alone to revisit. I agree - we need to kill those. -
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organisations. There is only one LinkedIn reference and that serves as a source for verifying business career dates.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with
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If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with
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London Gazette is a primary source, but it is perfectly fine. All the best:
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I pulled "He worked for ] at his London headquarters in the ].<ref: -->
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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may
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This wiki article is blatant self-promotion. It should be deleted.
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I wouldn't call them fake, just yet. Simply broken. All the best:
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to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
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