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I honestly don't think there's much point going back and forth much further here. I will wait to allow others to weigh in, but right now there is no consensus to change the article to remove mention of it. I don't like the wikilawyering and leading with (incorrect) demands about policy over deferring
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I do not understand why you make such a big deal out of the removal of such trivia. You didn't even write it. You probably shouldn't use bizjournals (a content mill that publishes what amounts to little more than press releases) and VICE (reliability spotty at best) in a BLP. The location of fancruft
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Counterassertion: it tells you something about the subject; that he is a Mensa member. I've given reasons above why I think it's verifiable, relevant, and duly weighted. If your only response is going to be restating that it shouldn't be included because it is "meaningless" (whatever that means) then
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This is honestly an inquiry, but I am actually not sure if articles current "Controversy" section even relevant and up to "standards" of encyclopedia? I am really not trying to belittle anyones point of view but do we really need so much description and highly detailed explanation of who said what on
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The entire article reads like the description of a fantasy character from a Dan Brown novel. It needs some serious re-working to remove fluffy language, speculation over his mindset and feelings, and also just removing non-career-based facts from the careers section and moving them into more relevant
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How did 33 million people come to spend so much time punching trees? To better understand, we need to go back a few years, to Sweden. In May 2009, a 29-year-old computer programmer called Markus Persson made public a game he had been working on. Persson – a Mensa member and a bearded, bearish figure
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But my question is, why is the fact that he is a Mensa member information that should be included in the article? Dude got swindled, and is perhaps insecure (those are the connotations). Many people have been and are. It is perhaps an hour of his entire life. And one of the least interesting hours.
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From BrigadierG's description, The Times mentions Mensa as part of their introduction to Persson. I believe we agree that it doesn't deserve such treatment here - it's clearly not due such weight in an encyclopedia article. It's a good example of why NOTNEWS exists: news articles include trivia to
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Reliable secondary sources have deemed his membership relevant enough to be worth commenting on. Mensa is a notable entity that is well-known, and most people are not members. It is no different than if he was an enthusiastic member of his local ping pong club, freemasons, or gardening society and
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So if we were trying to work out whether it's reasonably likely that readers would have an interest in the subject, how should we determine this? I think the most reasonable test based on the sources looks something like this - If a fact has been included in multiple high-quality sources about an
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Being a freemason or a ping pong club member actually means something. It is something people put a lot of time in. I have been to a ping pong club and those people are really good at it. It is a big part of their life. Most of them trained at least one day per week, for years. Unlike Mensa. I am
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According to WP:COMMONNAME it is generally preferred to use a more recognizable name then a more technically accurate name. Since Notch is more recognizable of a name then Markus Persson (seen in the own citations on this article such as "Notch on leaving Mojang: 'It's not about the money. It's
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I've just reverted back to the stable version. I think there's no lack of verifiability that Markus Persson is, in fact a Mensa member. This has been confirmed by the guy, and also reported in reliable secondary sources (Sky news for instance). The question is whether it merits inclusion - the
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Thanks, that is a useful shortcut to remember. It is clearly undue because it tells you nothing about the subject of the article. It is meaningless information. If a WP:RS reports that his neighbour is right-handed or that he has a labrador I would also get rid of that kind of fancruft.
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The claim appears in a Swedish tabloid. Our article says: "The journalistic quality of Aftonbladet and other tabloid newspapers has sometimes been questioned.". No other (more reliable) sources mention it. And we shouldn't include information just to make him look bad. He is already
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is clear. You need to stop reverting and have a normal conversation. It is OK if you don't like the guy; but you can't start a revert war over such a silly topic. Policy overrules any essay, and your interpretation of WP:BRD appears to be incorrect. We are at the Discuss stage.
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relative to the length of the article is completely irrelevant. OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not very convincing. We can use common sense to determine if a reader would be interested in any particular factoid about a BLP. Notch himself wrote: "I'm a member of Mensa Sweden.
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Well, it makes a bit of a difference, because I am strongly opposed to putting information from tabloids in BLPs, and Sky and Forbes are reasonable sources (I don't like Vice). But I still don't understand why you would include such trivial fancrufty information.
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Not every facet of a celebrity's life, personal details, matches played, or goals scored warrants inclusion in the biography of that person, only those for which they have notability or for which our readers are reasonably likely to have an
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The Times mentions Mensa in passing. BrigadierG didn't offer any further relevant context as to why it was brought up in the reference, so it seems just a bit of trivia. It didn't deserve a sentence in the reference, so why should we?
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Apparently not, because there is a 2-2 split of editorial opinion about whether it's interesting currently in this talk page. I made an appeal to the next best thing - sources about the person to outsource the editorial
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to find dates, but had little success.' The source link points to a source that does not state anything about Tinder or dating. Does anyone have an accurate source for this claim? If not I suggest deleting.
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Yes, due to the coverage in reliable secondary sources, and the fact that they had a literal impact on his standing in the community and with Microsoft, to the point his name was removed from many areas. --
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To steelman, I think the strongest argument for non-inclusion is WP:GOSSIP. WP:DUE has been brought up, but I think the issue is one of relevance, not of weight. The guidance given to us is as follows:
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Thanks for bringing up RSP re Sky News. Not as bad as I thought. However, an article about his tweets is NOTNEWS in my book. I don't see the author identified in either version. Am I overlooking it? --
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1) Knee-jerk reverting is a very bad thing. In that case, you should not be patrolling recent changes. If you do not want to include that information in the article, why do you repeatedly put it back?
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Whatever, we can change the language to include a date. I don't actually care that much, maybe more specificity is good. There's not much coverage of him since his fall from popular grace anyway.
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I am always nice :) It would be good (and much appreciated) if you could review the Inspiration for Minecraft section. I cleaned it up as best I could but I still think it needs a bit of work.
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I know this is probably not the place to ask... but is this section needed at all? Are this guys personal beliefs really of interest to anyone? This all seems a bit "thought police".
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Not sure if Twitter follows adequate sources, more-so now since Verification is paid for, but Notch has announced that he has opened a new game studio called Bitshift Entertainment.
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Dude literally stated that it was not important but that he liked bragging about it. So your argument that it is due hinges on the fact that the fancruft does not take up much space?
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This is the first time in the article that Persson is mentioned, and his Mensa membership is one of the first qualities mentioned, even before his appearance. I've made the case for
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Edit request: in the first paragraph of the article, remove the internal link from "Bitshift Entertainment". It redirects to this article, so there's no point for the link. --
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I don't have access to the reference from The Times. Can someone provide the paragraph that mentions Mensa, along with any other relevant, encyclopedic context? The author (
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some people just don't like like it when other people disagree with them, even when the topic is not important to them. If that is the case then it is time to move on.
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The second part is the more relevant bit - Notch states he advertises the fact and clearly considers it at least a small part of his identity. If you're as adherent to
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I haven't at any point made an OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, I've just deferred to secondary sources. To counterassert, you have not done this, and are currently making a
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Seems undue and unencyclopedic, without references that are far better than any mentioned or used. Please remember that BLPs have very high standards for references. --
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Exactly, which is why it would be wrong to call him an enthusiastic member or provide more weight to it than the single short sentence that mentions it at the moment.
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You probably shouldn't use bizjournals (a content mill that publishes what amounts to little more than press releases) and VICE (reliability spotty at best) in a BLP.
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I think you're jumping from issue to issue here. The initial complaint was about source quality, a WP:V issue. Sky News satisfies V to a standard necessary for a BLP.
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explicitly "does not suggest the inclusion or exclusion of any information", and what's your case for due given it's a single short sentence in a long article?
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3) All humans have a POV. People join Mensa to brag about the fact that they are members of Mensa. Funny how statement 1) you made is clearly against policy.
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1) I have never said that I want to include this information.. I reverted your change because you did not provide a valid reason for removing sources content.
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member (or even a member, people do lie sometimes). Most people take the test once, pay and then use it to brag to illinformed people (e.g. journalists).
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Gesturing to something's usefulness in a vacuum does not help assess its value on an encyclopedia. You need to say why something is useful or useless.
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individual (not gossip magazines), then the editorial boards of those outlets have deemed that readers are reasonably likely to have an interest.
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2. That its inclusion in the article is a single sentence, and so is not unduly weighted as a relatively low-importance piece of information.
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it is clear that you have a POV in this matter and if I was you I would refrain from making these statements which are not based on policy. —
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You have no evidence that he is currently a member of that organization, only that he liked bragging about it at some point many years ago.
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You have no evidence that he is currently a member of that organization, only that he liked bragging about it at some point many years ago.
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Can you explain exactly why you think this? We've been through this before and at this point it is probably a good idea to start an RfC. —
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I'm also not sure what is the relevance of the last sentence in "Activities after leaving Mojang" since the cites do not mention Persson.
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Twitter? Not trying to sound similarly dramatic but Knowledge has more concise and objective representation of Holocaust and Holodomor.
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Why do you think the location of fancruft relative to the length of the article is important? That's just something you made up, right?
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actively discourages this sort of sectioning. However, if controversies have been covered by many reliable sources, they are probably
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I have other objections to the interpretation that Persson being a Mensa member is at all contentious but I'll shelve that for now.
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Using a tabloid on a BLP is problematic. Making a claim that isn't supported by the source is also problematic. If your reaction is
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because you are insecure about your brain. Knowledge is an encyclopedia, not an indiscriminate collection of information. See also
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attract and engage the reader, while encyclopedia articles summarize and then expand upon the most important aspects of a topic.
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If we want to include some fancruft about him, shouldn't we mention that he used to make music? He is in the musician category.
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Your points 1 and 2 do not answer mine. Addressing point 2, yes, it does make a difference, as you have repeatedly mentioned
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And now you are starting a revert war, which is again against the PAGs. Discuss your concerns here instead of editwarring.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/4w5gwb/where-were-you-when-the-man-who-made-minecraft-had-a-mansplaining-meltdown-tvgtrn
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I removed the reference to his atheism; it seemed like a non sequitur, but I don't feel particularly strongly about it.
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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/%E2%80%98dumb%E2%80%99-comedian-infiltrated-mensa-it-ended-really-badly-133317
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I've removed the material once again. I don't see any consensus for inclusion here, as BLP requires. Please review
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WP:V applies which means that the onus is on those who want to include content to get consensus for its inclusion.
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gonna agree to disagree. At least we got decent sources now. Editwarring to put a tabloid in a BLP is a bad look.
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I'm not well versed on Knowledge rules for certain sources etc. so don't want to include it if it shouldn't be.
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applies which means that the onus is on those who want to include content to get consensus for its inclusion.
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We can use common sense to determine if a reader would be interested in any particular factoid about a BLP.
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I still don't understand why you think this is encyclopedic information worth including. And you wrote:
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Since this is recent, not much is known about the new game. Maybe add a small section called projects?
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applies and the stable version should remain in place - the stable version includes the Mensa comment.
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1. That it has been mentioned in particular by multiple high quality (not just churnalist) sources
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Undue weight can be given in several ways, including but not limited to the depth of detail, the
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You shouldn't source contentious facts from VICE or the like. This isn't a contentious fact or a
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Can we then at least use proper sources and not some tabloid? This information is clearly UNDUE.
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about my sanity'". Polygon) I think the title of this article should be changed to reflect this
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https://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/news/2014/09/15/markus-persson-microsoft-minecraft.html
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is relevant as reporting on Persson being a Mensa member is none of the four things listed.
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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
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The claim is verified. Hurray, we can go home. There are no verifiability issues here.
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reliable, and 2 of which are lower quality. Why only comment on the lower quality ones?
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If multiple RS report he got stuck in traffic once, we shouldn't include that either.
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which is true, so does that mean you agree that getting rid of it is an improvement?
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There are numerous spelling errors in this article which should probably be fixed.
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2) Your claim about no other sources existing is incorrect as this articles cites
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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
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https://news.sky.com/story/minecrafts-markus-persson-moans-about-wealth-10347752
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this fact had been remarked upon by reliable sources. Being stuck in traffic is
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to reliable sources, especially following an initial edit summary of "cringe".
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2) Those weren't in the article. And they don't really change the situation.
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when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.
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This seems like more than enough editorial consensus to merit inclusion.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20100218133531/http://www.mojang.com/notch/
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I do not understand why you make such a big deal out of the inclusion.
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Imagine having to pay money because you are insecure about your brain
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No it doesn't. It requires consensus to change an article's state -
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I do not understand why you make such a big deal out of the removal.
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which is obviously not relevant for 2014 events. It should cite the
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from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially
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coverage which would be the justification for non-inclusion.
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If you don't like the wikilawyering, you can just stop it.
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so that you understand why it does not apply in this case.
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I have never said that I want to include this information.
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be polite my friend. I agree with your changes, were good
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User_talk:Panamitsu#Unexplained_revert_on_Markus_Persson
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Whatever, we can change the language to include a date
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