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434:; allegations of sock-puppetry. Since any further disruptive editing probably will result in a Request for Arbitration, and since the ArbCom requires posts to be limited to 500 words, each editor should limit their posts to a readable length. I suggest that, in order both to avoid arbitration and to prepare the way for arbitration if all else fails, each editor state, in 500 words or less, what he or she thinks should be done both to improve the article and to improve the collaborative editing environment. Do any of you really want arbitration? If not, state clearly, without personal attacks, what should be done. If you do, state clearly, without personal attacks, what should be done. 1019:, both of which are useful resources, but have not been updated for several years. I would like to at least have What Is Metamodern? included in the external links section of this article, alongside the aforementioned resources, and possibly mentioned in the body itself. I am aware that it's not standard for a person to insert their own stuff into a page, but I feel some flexibility about that standard may be warranted in this case, because the community of people writing about Metamodernism is, as of yet, relatively small. What do people think? 744:
make a link to the prior discussion if there's actually something work discussing. This article is a hivemind for accusations because it's a combination of being something with little concrete RS and is based on public individuals who seem to be watching this page. Editors here either need to accept editing to their work and AGF even if you may be repeating it a dozen times or move to another article. I think discussions that aren't appropriate (general forum-like complaining) should be archived and ignored rather than engaged. --
1610:, I actually am just now seeing this though I already published some substantial revisions and additions to the page recently - hopefully that doesn't undercut what you've been working on. I essentially created the philosophy section and rewrote Storm's content (but kept the quote) and wrote a subsection for Hanzi (also preserving a quote from before). Then at the end, to address what you also noticed about all the art examples I put a Selected Works we could potentially move the examples to. 887:
Requiring sources outside the school of thought to verify aspects of the school of thought is taking our policy of independence to an unreasonable extreme. With regard to categories, I can see your point and agree with you--there is not yet enough in the reliable sources to consider architecture as a defining characteristic of metamodermism. But if there are reliable sources, even by adherents, that discuss application of metamodernism to architecture, they are fair game for this article. --
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included. However, I don't think it justifies restructuring the entire article without further discussion here and a consensus reached. There has been a lot of discussion here on the talk page for all the editors to arrive at the article's current format. I would suggest that the article is best served if the chronological structure is kept, rather than separating it into sections for 'Literary Fiction' and 'Art', since the existing material spans those categories already.
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architecture is a small category for another young approach to post-postmodernism that could use some cross-seeding. The rest of the articles in the category are narrowly focused on architecture and I'm not sure that I've seen metamodernism explicitly tied to neomodernism in a reputable source, so maybe this article should be left out. However, the category's main article,
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persons medium article are hard to find), I also find the Metamodernism in the arts section to devolve quickly into just a list of things that have been called metamodern somewhere. I have been working on a more extensive overhaul, for which i will post a link to my sandbox once i feel a bit more confident in its state. Hope we can improve this article together.
963:. These articles do have a few more sentences on architecture than this one does, but that's all. The last category you removed, contemporary art, is mostly unrelated to architecture and includes articles on topics at least as obscure as metamodernism. In the future, please don't treat a quick conversation with an unrelated editor as sign of consensus; see 310: 289: 414:. Maybe that is because this article has attracted more attention, or maybe it is because this article has the attention of advocates for two scholars who have published papers referring to metamodernism by that name. In any case, if the conduct disputes that prevent resolution of content issues are not resolved, this article is likely to end up in 320: 646:, and apology accepted. I know that your comments have always been well-intentioned, and I'm simply glad that you're better acquainted with the facts now, which the disruptive user had tried to obscure. I just hope that we've now seen the last of these disruptive accounts, so that the friendly collaborative atmosphere can return here. 1719:`Metamodernism is understood by many people in different ways. There are “metamodern” thinkers and artists, just as there are metamodern concepts that contribute to “metamodernism” as a whole. At is core, metamodernism attempts to reconcile differences between postmodern and modern ideas to describe contemporary subjects. 959:, does not currently mention metamodernism at all, but Vermeulen and van den Akker do call out remodernism on page seven of their paper. The modernist and postmodern architecture categories are relatively large and focused on architecture, although they do contain articles for larger ideas such as neomodernism and 1434:
Cite all or part of Hanzi/Daniel Görtz's "1) a cultural phase; 2) developmental stage of society; 3) stage of personal development (with different complexly intertwined sub-categories thereof); 4) an abstracted meta-meme; 5) a philosophical paradigm, and 6) a sociopolitical movement." definition from
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I'd like to pick at one thing--it's not so much that there's little concrete RS as it is that those sources don't offer much to work with. We have plenty of RSes, just not enough to say with them! The real problem is that the only people who feel like speaking about metamodernism in any great detail
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I archived everything else here. Other than this discussion, the last discussion hasn't been commented on in a week and focuses more on the theory of what the other editors want to do with the article rather than its actual content. Prior attempts got reverted but at this stage, I'll ask that people
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I think we are in agreement that the wikipage is currently not up to its potential. I think the structure is still not where it should be, we have a wrong infobox (its the postmodernism infobox just copy pasted over), there is still trouble with a Criticism section (good sources that are not just a
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are needed to fully appreciate metamodernism's context, and as one of the major conceptualizations of life after postmodernism it's important to understanding theirs, as well. Let's go through each of the categories you removed and consider this article's appropriateness for each of them. Neomodern
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Vermeulen's and van den Akker's 2010 paper in the Journal of Aesthetics & Culture, which is the foundation of the academic conversation in question and is featured prominently in this article, focuses on architecture on pages 10 through 12 and mentions the field in a few other places, too. This
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Those are no use, they are just three more metamodernists claiming architecture as potential territory. You need to find architects or established architectural critics who have put forward buildings and overtly stated them to be metamodern. To my knowledge, none of the architects mentioned in your
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As another note while I remember it. There is a tendency ina lot of the metamodern authors who are not looking at aesthetics, to take the modernism and post-modernism were of there time, therefore meta-modernism. In fact there are other alternatives, such as New Materialism which work well with
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I wrote the introduction fairly different than when I first started working on the page but am not too attached to it. I'm also not sure how qualified I am to revise the art section otherwise, but it feels like Vermeulen and van den Akker are overrepresented, and all the pictures refer to them and
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Integral Epistemic - attemps to reconcile chiefly the Modern and Postmodern, but also any other epistemes of time and place by emphasizing the importance of integrating their seemingly opposing systems of knowledge into contemporary life. Metamodern philosophy starts here and is applied broadly to
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Cut anything that is only supported by self-published sources that do not meet Knowledge (XXG)'s guidelines for acceptable use of self-published sources (e.g., writing a Medium article is not enough to earn a presence on this page, someone else needs to talk about you, or you need to have put work
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Alternatively, a different and more fine-grained approach than just Academic vs Cultural? It's not clear to me why a substantial curated discussion (Wager), a fairly major branch of work (Freinacht, with two full books), and a network of podcasts all get mixed in under Cultural Acceptance with a
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I don't think we can categorise metamodernism as relevant to architecture unless independent architectural commentators explicitly reference metamodernism. The fact that a couple of metamodernist writers drag architecture into their view is not significant. Can we remove these categories here? (I
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Scholars and practitioners generally split on two definitions of metamodernism (among others). Some view it predominately as a “cultural sensibility” and way to understand certain art, such as Timotheus Vermeulen and Robin van den Akker. Others additionally view it as a philosophy or in relation
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An explanation was given in the edit description. The reason it was removed for now was that the notability of the added material on Vittorini is not apparent, given that it has a single primary source. If secondary sources can be found that do demonstrate notability, then the material should be
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Though I agree there should indeed be a criticism section, it is unclear why the opinion of "philosopher and founder of Parallax magazine Tom Amarque" who "criticized Metamodernism on a range of points" is relevant. Also, the citations to Amarque's website include one dead link and two podcast
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Instead of having Vermeulen and Akker as part of a history of the term section, in detail, it makes sense to contextualize their information in its own right. In this way other major contributors to metamodernism like Hanzi and Storm, and anyone in the future, can be placed together as authors
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Similarly, the entire paragraph about "Brent Cooper of The Abs-Tract Organization" (neither the person nor organization have any other reference within wikipedia). I think I have seen Cooper appearing on podcasts with others referenced on this page, so those could be suitable references. But
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After waiting for some time on more collaboration I've decide to rewrite the intro (that someone else still could probably write better) and restructure the article to be more approachable for readers and editers. There are three major changes, but I've kept basically all prior content in the
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The editor in question over at ANI seems unwilling to explain their comment to me, nor even whether they agree with your own analysis. I have now read the discussion you link to on your talk page, and I agree that you have suffered misrepresentation on several occasions. Since you were merely
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Your example is inappropriate, as a building is not going to fall down if someone declares it metamodernist. I consider metamodernism as a school of thought and like other young schools of thought, it is mostly talked about by the adherents and mostly considered rubbish by the non-adherents.
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Published definitions pretty clearly fall into those that talk prominently about oscillation and those that do not- this is self-evident from quoting the definitions and therefore won't need extensive support from secondary sources that claims that they form "schools" of Metamodernism would
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i don't have any thoughts on the structure of the article; my issue is with the language, which is almost cartoonishly academic and extremely difficult for a layperson to understand. if the article still stands it should be rewritten by someone who is not and has never been a grad student.
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Streamline this section as with "Academic Engagement": notable people and their ares of work/cultural impact, not descriptions of every person's project and lists of every contributor – reference citations should provide enough info for anyone who wants to find out those details to do
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Instead of imply a cohesive analysis of art, as before with "Metamodernism in the arts," this approach tries to narrow the scope. The article before simply listed examples with short descriptions that were hard to read together, which now is made somewhat better organized this way.
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Still, I think the second half of the article could use work especially, including a criticism section, and perhaps would be made better by more pictures. Currently all three are attributed to Vermeulen and Akker and only the last one really adds much to the article in my opinion.
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The sections of this page have gotten rather long and dense, and read like a fairly random list of things people have said or written. It's all relevant, but it's hard to get a sense of the major varieties and focuses of Metamodernism. Contrast with the clear organization of the
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One reference to an article by Greg Dember (who seems to have a now-closed account that was used only to edit this page) is on Medium. He is also co-credited with other references which seem suitable, but my impression is that Knowledge (XXG) frowns on open platforms like Medium?
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the aesthetic aspects or ironic realism but not with Hansi et al. Storm at least mentions it, but without any depth and his dismissal of it is one of the weakest aspects of his book. I don't think this is criticism but we do need to address the post-post-modernism space. -----
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Clearly the opening part of the "History of the Term" section is fine, and some part of the "Vermeulen and van den Akker" and "The Metamodernist Manifesto" subsections are part of that story. But other parts of those subsections probably belong separate from the basic history.
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Not so much a suggestion, but a plea for personal recognition by the editors remaining that their discussion skills are appalling and that endless repetition of accusatory rants is just as much their own trait as anybody else's and actually harms their case each time they
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You don't get it do you? Nobody in the architectural field has validated the claims of Vermeulen's and van den Akker. I take your point about art in general and have restored that Category, though I have removed a few other irrelevant ones while I was at it. — Cheers,
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Although many people disagree “what metamodernism is”, a metamodern viewpoint centrally holds that the optimism associated with modernism is still compatible with popular postmodern critiques of human limitations.` <one or two more sentences what has happened:
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You've moved goalposts again, I see. Your initial claim that most of the major editors were SPAs remains patently false, and you refuse to retract it. But it appears that we've moved on, so I'm willing to drop it, even if you don't have the decency to apologize.
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Beyond that, would it be good to organize by schools of thought that are emerging as focus arease.g. Oscillatory Metamodernism (Vermeulen and van den Akker; Turner) vs Developmental Metamodernism (Hanzi Freinacht a.k.a. Görtz and Friis) vs whatever else?
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I would like to note that I will not retract my claim until the untruths uttered by the user, out of ignorance or malice, have been adequately retracted and apologized for. Coming out of nowhere with accusations of SPA is blatantly disruptive and trolly.
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other editors, obscuring the healthy discussions about the content of the article that have been taking place between the legitimate editors here for some time. Since the latest sock ceased their activity - their exact status pending the findings of a
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Hello, I do not know the conventions of collaborative editting on Knowledge (XXG), but if you are still present I am interested in helping editing here. After learning and becoming interested in this Metamodernism I think this page could use more
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I've tentatively inserted a condensed reference to Vittorini in the 'Cultural Acceptance' section, where this seems to fit with the other authors there expanding on the term. Still lacking secondary sources, so please add if they can be found.
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retaliating against confirmed abuse, the persistence of your accusations is understandable. I am redacting my suggestion that it requires apology, and I hope you will accept my apology in turn for piling one distress upon another. — Cheers,
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This article talk page is a terrible mess. I won't say that the article is a mess, but the discussion on this talk page has not helped. Knowledge (XXG) depends on collaborative editing, and that has been in short supply on this article.
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made some progress in restoring cooperation, but restoring cooperation requires efforts by multiple editors. It isn't clear to me why this particular article attracts so much disruptive editing and hostility, as opposed, for instance, to
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Third can come the deletion of long and unproductive rants, possibly by archiving whole sections. I think this has to be done by someone not involved in the discussion, as it is bound to make snap judgements on the material to
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i like that we are on the same page regarding the need for the criticism section - it would be great to see editors being proactive in finding scholarly sources on critiques of metamodernism. the page suffers without it
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I'm calling this "definitions" and not "schools" because "schools" would require a verifiable secondary source identifying the schools, and the only things I can find that talk about schools of metamodernism are Medium
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been cooperative editing on this page by numerous editors. It appears to have been the latest sock's plan to flood the talk page with thousands of words of largely incomprehensible and unsupported PoV comments and to
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I'm checking in here before I make a modification to this page, because I'm aware of possible Conflict of Interest issues, and yet I feel some flexibility may be warranted. I am the co-author of a blog called
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I know that a lot of people in metamodernism as an art movement are concerned by its appropriation for new religious movements and forms of stage theory (that Bateson and others have criticised as eugenic -
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lol fair. I feel like gutting the art section and restructuring could help with that but it also didn't feel right for me or one person to essentially rewrite the whole thing. So have been waiting for some
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To emphasize, I'm not questioning the relevance of either person, just whether the citations and tone are appropriate. If more appropriate citations are available I have no objection to their inclusion.
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Cultural Sensability - predominately focused on post-irony and interpretting or recognizing metamodern qualities within subjects and mediums of art. This is how Vermeulen and van den Akker are using it.
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I'd still like to do this but (obviously since it's been six months) have not had the time to focus on it. I encourage anyone to make use of any/all of the above ideas. I might get to it eventually.
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If there is notable criticism of the movement (e.g. not people complaining about people who are involved, but critical attitudes towards the utility/clarity/etc. of the movement), make a section for it
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I do not understand the reasoning behind your assertion that these sources are of no use. Do we reject sources discussing algebraic geometry because they were written by algebraists, not geometers? --
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All the things that matter have now been done, IMHO: material archived, recognition that accusations of bad faith have gone stale, I am content that things are now as good as we will get. — Cheers,
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I support the idea of dividing the content into two main definitions, which is hinted at in the summary, but this hasn't yet been fully implemented. Here is my view of what it could be.
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It's been a week and no one has objected so here's what I am planning to do (probably a week or two from now, barring objections or someone else doing something similar or better):
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The first is the deletion of any material which pushes outing and doxing to the fore. At least some has already been removed by an uninvolved editor, but there may still be more.
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Also with the intro, I reworked that and don't know how to be much more casual without it being too much my opinion (and I don't have a grad school or related degree to this).
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the
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their work as well. And unfortunately yea, overall criticism is hard to find so it may be better to try and fit in specific criticisms within the sections than force one.
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The second is retractions and apologies for the most outrageous accusations still current. These include, but may not be limited to; accusations of outright lying (by
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If you have other ideas or suggestions to discuss feel free! Just wanted to try and revive the page because its been pretty stagnant for a while and not up to date.
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We catalog and discuss exemplars of the metamodern sensibility in culture and the arts, in non-academic language. We are updating it regularly, in contrast to
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https://web.archive.org/web/20130328061309/http://www.tanjawagner.com/de/exhibitions/details/2012-discussing-metamodernism-galerie/pr-en-metamodern-2012.html
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other subjects, such as Hanzi Freinacht. In metamodern analysis, either perspective still draws on postmodernism and modernism as contextualized in history.
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because it doesn't seem like coherent English, and I don't have access to the source, or a knowledge of Italian to attempt to reword it in clearer terms:
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Note what podcasts and other forums tend to discuss Metamodernism, but again trim summaries of episodes as Knowledge (XXG) is not for promoting content
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page. I do not mean to disparage anyone's work, pages grow organically, and this sort of thing is natural. But perhaps some cleanup is in order?
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I tried to rationalize and update the page with fresh materials, but it was refused. No explanation given. It doesn't seem very democratic.
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I'm happy to take a shot at reorganizing things but I don't want to step on anyone's toes. Feel free to shoot down this trial balloon :-)
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added the maintenance template, Qwerfjkl do you have any suggestions how to make the article and its parts less difficult to understand?
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Streamline this, we don't need summaries of every individual person's arguments and theories, just notable people and their areas of work
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supporting inclusion purely on Medium pieces seems a bit suspect, and the wording of this paragraph feels rather promotional to me.
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are the metamodernists themselves. 3rd party, high-quality sources have been a constant nightmare for this article since its birth.
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Cite "We will call this discourse, oscillating between a modern enthusiasm and a postmodern irony, metamodernism." definition from
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Move most of the "Vermeulen and van den Akker" subsection and the first paragraph of "The Metamodernist Manifesto" subsection here
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Great idea. I have tried to implement some of the above suggestions. Further edits/improvements along these lines is welcome.
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I think if the topic gains more popularity a dedicated section would make sense but it was not flowing well in my opinion.
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article actually mentions that discussion in its seventh paragraph, although not in much detail. Related movements such as
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Anything about the temporal and philosophical relationships that doesn't strictly fit in the above sections would go here
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Your characterization of my edits is incorrect, since the fact of that user's sockpuppetry has already been confirmed
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I've reread this several times, and I'm still not sure what it is trying to say, or to what exactly it is referring?
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http://www.tanjawagner.com/de/exhibitions/details/2012-discussing-metamodernism-galerie/pr-en-metamodern-2012.html
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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3. Distinguished the art section, as is, to be examples of art with subsections for the type of example.
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Keep the brief timeline of the existing section prior to the "Vermeulen and van den Akker" subsection.
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I see several paragraphs that seem to have been added by people referencing their own Medium pieces.
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Move the Hanzi bit currently in "Cultural Acceptance" up here as it covers the developmental aspect
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The bit about LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner from "The Metamodernist Manifesto" subsection goes here
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Cite "We recognise oscillation to be the natural order of the world.", the first bullet point of
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before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template
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So are we agreed that this article can be removed from any architectural Categories? — Cheers,
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Aside from the extensive disruptive editing of one user's sockpuppets, I believe that there
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doing geometry and is well verifiable as such. Here's a better parallel; Would you allow a
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2. Reorganized major sections to be "Metadern authors" and "Examples in metamodern art."
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1. Cut the history of the term section, and consolidated that information in the intro.
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If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with
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that you stop make unhelpful statements such as this about obvious sockpuppetry, as
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Organize subsections as follows (exact subheading names TBD, suggestions invited):
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Keep the symposium list as it is short and demonstrates a community of interest
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Probably put the bit about "meta-" referencing Plato's metaxy here somewhere
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this was my edit. acknowledged. i will revert now in light of your points.
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Relationship to Modernism, Postmodernism, and other Post-Postmodernisms
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without pigeonholing their work under more or less vague schools.
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Metamodernism: Historicity, Affect and Depth After Postmodernism
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Information only supported by Medium pieces? Promotional tone?
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for general discussion about metamodernism. Any such comments
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just because some of them claimed they could? Would you add
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also posted on your talk page by another editor. — Cheers,
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Can I suggest that several kinds of cleanup are needed:
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