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Except for the first few years after the 774-5 event was published, when no other such events were known, most articles concerned the general phenomenon either as the main theme or a major theme. It is true that the specific name "Miyake event" is less commonly used, but the issue of article title is
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I think the literature establishes there's now an identified range of historical events under which the 'Miyake event' is an appropriate conceptual category. Given that the origin, properties, and effect of each of these events is not well understood, and recent literature at
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There is also no reason to delete the comparison with a recorded non Miyake event and how, where and by whom the latest discovered event was discovered. It may need confirmation but this can be stated and there is still no reason not to include a wider description of it.
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has more information, then the reason why it is not a Miyake event which should not be in the Wiki page should be put in the wiki article, with references and not simply remove it. Or alternatively state in the talk why it should not be in the article.
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I added the text about the latest event. This was removed without IMO good reason. I am not getting into a war so I put my text below in case someone wants to use it or modify whatever inaccuracies it contains and use it.
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It appears researchers uncovered another event. I am not familiar enough with the material to trust myself adding this content correctly. Feel free to do so yourself if you don't have that problem. Press release here
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