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My goodness, I'm surprised anyone remembers that show! :-)  Well, it's not worth pushing, but for the sake of accuracy, the "New
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the new iteration of the long-running group before the Civil War. After the Civil War they were the continuation of Cap's Secret
Avengers and you could consider them not to be the sanctioned team anymore. So the logic doesn't really work. In fact, in terms of issue numbers, they spent longer as
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Avengers and The New Avengers are two different series but, I think we need to follow the same rules for both really. Merging them will simply increase the size of the main Avengers
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since that title is essentially a new volume of the long-running series, and a direct continuation of the story and chronology of the team that began in 1963. If we'd have to split it into its own article again in the future, that would likely be years away since the FCB only describe the most
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style with context-free references to Ultron and Dr. Doom that mean nothing to the general-audience reader to which
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That's because it's really such a useless article. All it does is list teams, most of which have only been mentioned in passing or interviews. Hardly notable. And it seems that this discussion has gotten off track from how it started.
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I say go ahead and get the article "moved". To be honest I never looked that close but, if that is the correct title than that is what this article should be called. We can always have a redirect in case someone leaves off the "the".
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isn't a continuation of the publication history (in the strictest sense - not being vol whatever or similar). The contents of this particular article which are encyclopedic make more sense within the already existing section at
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As for how long the team's been together, that's not really relevant. Back in issue #16 or whichever, the entire team except for
Captain America changed and was brand new. But they were still the only official Avengers.
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article and I think we should avoid that. Now if we were able to cut down on a significant portion of the in universe stuff in all the articles that may be different but, I'm not sure anyone wants to take on that task.
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Godzilla has a kind of cameo appearance on page 2 in issue #1. On that page Cho has drawn one of Mole Man's creatures rather
Godzillaish, so it's not supposed to be the real Godzilla, just an easter egg for the fans.
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Reception, it has a similar format. All it is saying that issue #1 was the second best seller. (e.g. U2's song X reached 2nd on the pop charts.) Sourced and there's nothing wrong with it reaching second.
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Shouldn't be that hard to cut down on the in-universe material. I think I got rid of most of it. And I don't see why they both have to have the same rules. The New
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Now it appears to be boiling down to semantics or something and I really don't want to get into that. We need to be consistent which means working on the rules making them compatiable across multiple titles.
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No it won't. That's not the team - just the characters who appear in this arc. The team roster is not revealed until #26 - although Slott has confirmed that Wasp, Jocasta and
Scarlet Witch will be on it.
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The page is a stub that reads like a fansite blog. It's pointless and useless. Merge it. If it ever becomes noteworthy then it's no problem to split them apart.
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Man, I'm not even supposed to be for a merge... Look what I did. Stupid, stupid, stupid! Kay, well. I guess I'm for it now, against my personal feelings.
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