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My goodness, I'm surprised anyone remembers that show! :-)  Well, it's not worth pushing, but for the sake of accuracy, the "New
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style with context-free references to Ultron and Dr. Doom that mean nothing to the general-audience reader to which
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That's because it's really such a useless article. All it does is list teams, most of which have only been mentioned in passing or interviews. Hardly notable. And it seems that this discussion has gotten off track from how it started.
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I say go ahead and get the article "moved". To be honest I never looked that close but, if that is the correct title than that is what this article should be called. We can always have a redirect in case someone leaves off the "the".
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isn't a continuation of the publication history (in the strictest sense - not being vol whatever or similar). The contents of this particular article which are encyclopedic make more sense within the already existing section at
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Captain America changed and was brand new. But they were still the only official Avengers.
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Godzilla has a kind of cameo appearance on page 2 in issue #1. On that page Cho has drawn one of Mole Man's creatures rather
Godzillaish, so it's not supposed to be the real Godzilla, just an easter egg for the fans.
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Reception, it has a similar format. All it is saying that issue #1 was the second best seller. (e.g. U2's song X reached 2nd on the pop charts.) Sourced and there's nothing wrong with it reaching second.
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Shouldn't be that hard to cut down on the in-universe material. I think I got rid of most of it. And I don't see why they both have to have the same rules. The New
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Scarlet Witch will be on it.
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The page is a stub that reads like a fansite blog. It's pointless and useless. Merge it. If it ever becomes noteworthy then it's no problem to split them apart.
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