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1379:"It's rather complicated. The Mexican army says the 300-acre plantation four times the size of the previous record-holder, the "El Bufalo" ranch in northern Chihuahua state that authorities discovered in 1984, according to the AP (AFP, quoting the military, identifies the previous record-holder as an 158-acre farm in the state of Sinaloa uncovered in 2007.) Experts like Alberto Islas, however, are casting doubt on the military's claims, arguing that the Bufalo farm was much bigger than the Baja field. Mexican press reports claim El Bufalo was 1,344 acres and contained anywhere from 2,500 to 6,000 tons of marijuana worth somewhere between $ 3.2 billion and $ 8 billion in today's prices, The Journal notes. Islas tells the paper that the Mexican army could be exaggerating the size of yesterday's bust to boost morale as Mexican's violent drug war drags on. A Mexican official, meanwhile, explains that the Bufalo plantation was a series of 13 different fields and the Baja plantation was bigger than any individual Bufalo field. Ah, the difficulty in measuring marijuana plantations." 941:. A defense motion claimed that the government covered up evidence that Felix-Gallardo participated in Camarena's murder in order to avoid disclosing that the Contras were funded by Gallardo with the tacit approval of the US government. The claim cited above is actually a paraphrase of this motion. The prosecution called the Contra-drug dealer claim "a fantasy" and denounced the motion as "one of the most outrageous that has been filed in a criminal proceeding in recent years." Scott and Marshall claim that the prosecution "did not dispute" Lotz's claim, but by no means accept the defense claims either. 242: 1209: 692:
as this is an inadequate source for such broad claims. I checked the article for Scott's sources; he cites his own book, "Cocaine Politics", written with Jonathan Marshall and published by the University of California Press. The UC press is a reliable publisher, but the book does not support any of these claims, or at least not on the pages Scott lists. I am therefore deleting the claims derived from this article. Such claims require a real RS; a real RS give accurate citations.
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Felix-Gallardo receiving any assistance or favorable treatement from the CIA, and they NEVER claim that Felix-Gallardo was a CIA asset. Based on all this, I don't see any justification for keeping the section at this point, and have therefore deleted it. If I'm missing something, please leave a note here. Note also that this is a BLP article, and claims and sourcing should observe the relevant rules.
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The second paragraph in this section on the Guadalajara Cartel's connection to the Columbian cartels was copied to the article on Guadalajara Cartel, where I have unknowingly been working on this poorly sourced passage. I have now revised to paragraph to give the actual source for its claims: all of
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The article includes a claim that one-time DFS head Miguel Nazar Haro was a CIA asset, that the the Guadalajara Cartel "prospered largely, among other reasons, because it enjoyed the protection of the DFS" under Nazar, sourcing it to an article by Peter Dale Scott published on-line. An article such
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The idea seems to be that because Matta-Ballesteros was helping the CIA transport supplies to the Contras, as a courtesy to Matta, Gallardo also received special treatment from the CIA. There is no source given for this idea. There is no source given that claims Gallardo was involved with SETCO.
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of this is supported by the text, which does not claim that Gallardo was considered an asset by the CIA. or that that Gallardo supplied "financial and material assistance", or that Matta-Ballesteros was an asset, or that Gallardo, Matta, and Ocampo headed the largest cocaine cartel in the world. I
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An undercover agent from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Kiki Camarena, managed to infiltrate deep into the drug trafficking organization and get close to Félix Gallardo. In 1984, acting on information from Camarena, 450 Mexican soldiers, backed by helicopters, destroyed a 1,000
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Note that the information in the section does not involve the DFS at all. Certainly the claim has been made that the DFS was involved with drug trafficking, but this needs a source, and none has been given ever been given in this article. If I can find a useful one I will put it back in at some
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The claim that Felix-Gallardo collaborated with the CIA is not documented in Scott and Marshall; Lotz's claim is the closest they come to showing that Felix-Gallardo had any interest in any CIA project. They never mention Felix-Gallardo contacting any CIA officer or agent, they never mention
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Similar to previous change of 23-Nov-2018: Change: "While incarcerated, he remained one of Mexico's major traffickers, maintaining his organization via mobile phone until he was transferred in the 1990s to the Altiplano maximum security prison, where he is serving a 37-year sentence."
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in Honduras to transport supplies and personnel for the , carrying at least a million rounds of ammunition, food, uniforms, and other military supplies . . . from 1983 through 1985." For its services SETCO received funds from the Contra accounts established by
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that Camarena was involved with the Rancho Bufalo raid. I have changed some of this section, giving citations to Shannon. All of this contradicts several articles dealing with Camarena's murder, which should all be revised in light of this problem in sourcing.
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Evidence for the change is given lower down in this same article: "On 18 December 2014, federal authorities approved his request to transfer him to a medium-security prison in Guadalajara (State of Jalisco) due to his declining health conditions."
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To: "While incarcerated, he remained one of Mexico's major traffickers, maintaining his organization via mobile phone until he was transferred in the 1990s to the Altiplano maximum security prison, where he continued serving a 37-year sentence."
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Evidence for the change is given in the very next paragraph: "On 18 December 2014, federal authorities approved his request to transfer him to a medium-security prison in Guadalajara (State of Jalisco) due to his declining health conditions."
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This comes from the Scott-Marshall book Cocaine Politics, but is presented in very unclear or distorted form. This passage refers to the 1988 trial of three men accused of assisting in the murder of DEA agent
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Change: "He is serving a 37-year sentence in the maximum security prison known as Altiplano." to: "He is serving a 37-year sentence at a medium-security prison in Guadalajara (State of Jalisco)."
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The article section titled "Collaboration with the CIA and DFS" originally had a paragraph dealing with Juan Matta-Ballesteros and SETCO, the air transport company which Matta controlled:
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So that's the Mexican military implying that the weed farm was only 75 acres (low credibility) versus "Mexican press" saying it was 1,344 acres, versus this wiki article claiming 2,500.
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hectare (≈2,500 acre) marijuana plantation known as "Rancho Búfalo" in Chihuahua, Mexico, known to be protected by Mexican DFS intelligence agents, as part of "Operation Godfather".
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point, but it's not high on my list. A vast array of Mexican government agencies were corrupted by drug traffickers, and the DFS would just be one more on the list.
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There is only one source for this paragraph: the revised edition of Peter Dale Scott and Jonathan Marshall's book Cocaine Politics, p. 83-85. But
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In 2008, the investigative journalist Diego Enrique Osorno was able to contact Félix Gallardo through Félix Gallardo's 13-year-old son.
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Gallardo's drug trafficking network was protected by his many high-level government connections, especially those within the
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Notice the change of "where he is serving" to "where he continued serving" in light of his subsequent transfer.
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together headed the largest cocaine ring in the world at that time, and had no competitors of comparable size.
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Done. I changed it to "... where he served part of his 37-year sentence". Thank you for coming back again.
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Thanks for this. I consulted the source at and it seems like it wasn't a reliable source anyways.
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His cartel was also benefited by the CIA for having connections with the Honduran drug lord
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Looks like he was able to conceive his son while incarcerated in max/high security prison.
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Gallardo provided a significant amount of funding, weapons, and other aid to the
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This entire paragraph is therefore irrelevant to Gallardo and I have deleted it.
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Felix was granted house arrest. Will be moved Tuesday due to declining health
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The third paragraph of the lead in this article originally stated
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Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies, and the CIA in Latin America
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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I wasn't able to verify this - can anyone provide clues?
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Much of this is contradicted by Elaine Shannon's book
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