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2492:slavery
2488:serfdom
2459:ability
2162:selves.
2146:Dieknon
1765:89,420
1631:10,258
1515:12,057
1399:11,215
1378:Sikhism
1311:12,329
1268:13,527
1248:Origins
1214:Section
1161:history
994:Orphans
947:Infobox
886:Cleanup
821:picture
801:on the
704:on the
619:on the
514:on the
409:on the
316:B-class
265:dispute
219:90 days
154:WP refs
142:scholar
2463:sexism
2422:hatred
2369:, and
2347:sexism
2242:(talk)
2231:keep".
2204:(talk)
1961:(talk)
1762:89,420
1741:2,044
1702:1,271
1689:6,961
1676:3,544
1661:1,424
1646:5,267
1588:1,433
1575:1,639
1560:3,084
1552:Incels
1545:2,606
1530:1,571
1502:2,337
1487:2,353
1474:1,340
1459:1,921
1444:3,027
1414:2,530
1386:1,116
1371:3,182
1356:5,346
1341:1,393
1326:1,225
1298:4,377
1283:9,127
1255:2,664
1242:9,753
1229:2,732
1216:total
1091:Verify
1080:Update
936:Expand
868:Assess
322:scale.
126:Google
2636:|ans=
2626:This
2469:than
2438:girls
2434:women
2420:) is
2376:To:
2353:than
2343:girls
2339:women
2277:|ans=
2267:This
1900:|ans=
1890:This
1759:Total
1738:2,044
1699:1,271
1686:6,961
1673:3,544
1658:1,424
1643:5,267
1572:1,639
1557:3,084
1542:2,606
1527:1,571
1512:3,157
1499:2,337
1471:1,340
1466:Hegel
1456:1,921
1441:3,027
1411:2,530
1396:1,590
1383:1,116
1368:3,182
1363:Islam
1353:5,346
1338:1,393
1323:1,225
1295:4,377
1280:9,127
1252:2,664
1239:9,753
1226:2,732
1222:(Top)
1211:count
1155:with
1052:Stubs
1039:Split
1025:Photo
961:Merge
303:This
191:Index
169:JSTOR
130:books
84:Seek
2699:talk
2682:Done
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1994:talk
1975:talk
1922:talk
1857:ISBN
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1715:383
1618:889
1603:516
1429:807
1209:Byte
1107:see
1071:see
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902:see
877:and
873:see
162:FENS
136:news
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2341:or
2275:or
1956:Fir
1953:een
1950:rgr
1947:Eve
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1847:doi
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1712:383
1615:889
1600:516
1426:807
827:be
823:or
793:Mid
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611:Mid
506:Top
401:Mid
176:TWL
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