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she told a lesbian magazine she was definitely not straight - on any reading of the interview. How is that not labeling herself sufficiently? She doesn't have to sign up to particular "trigger-word". That is crackers. And a clear pattern of behavior is enough for any sane person too. Let's not be so
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the speculation, we are repeating published comments about the speculation itself. There is a big difference. The speculation itself is part of her story. If there had never been any question about her sexuality, then it probably wouldn't even be mentioned in the article. But, for a time, every other
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Good point. I don't know how I missed the No. 1. I hear what you are getting at with respect to eventually finding out by reading the rest of the article. I'm not sure if the burden should be put on the reader to dig deeper to find out what something means. I think it was actually the capitalization
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This sentence is factually incorrect as "Steer" is not the title track. This material is already duplicated in a more appropriate place later in the artcle and it does not make grammatical sense. Unbelievably my corrections of these errors were reversed as being "without good reason". I have no wish
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I have to admit to being homophobic to a certain degree, but more importantly I believe in peoples right to their opinion and the freedom to persue happiness. Having said that, I believe people like Missy are the best representatives for groups of flexible sexual orientation and should be applauded
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None of the quotes in the notes are saying anything like "hmm, I wonder if she might be gay". They are all along the lines of "there's been plenty of speculation in the media". We're not just repeating gossip, we're trying to tell her story in a neutral way. To leave out any mention of the media
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Never mind. I was talking about the Extra White chewing gum commercial. Sent an e-mail to them and they said it was made specifically for the commercial but may be released commercially because of wide-spread interest. Didn't say who the artist was but. Still think she sounds like MH though...
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WELL ARE YOU HOMOPHOBIC OR SOMETHING?! WHO CARES IF SHES A LESBIAN! OBVIOUSLEY SHES AN INDUVIDUAL AND DOESNT CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU HOMOPHOBIC PEOPLE THINK!! SHE DOESNT WANNA BE A CONFORMIST! SHOW SOME RESPECT AND DONT DISPLAY YOUR DISGUSTING HOMOPHOBIC BEHAVIOUR IN PUBLIC ON THE INTERNET!!!
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I agree with you that the first is too wordy. Just ARIA or your alternative is better. The only reason it seemed unclear initially is because there are many charts and it wasn't clear in which she was in the Top Ten. It can mean a lot of different things.
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Australia television, I think for some sort of washing powder, a Missy Higgins song? Certainly sounds like it. I ran the lyrics though and didn't really get any results. Any ideas? Cheers,
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Which is why it's made explicit as you keep reading the paragraph and the rest of the article. :) I still don't agree that this needs to be clarified in that sentence, but I'm not that bothered for the sake of two words.
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I think most of the stuff in the "Notes" section should be removed. They are not facts. If she has stated something about her sexuality then quote that, but don't quote someone in the media speculating about it!
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