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Thank you. To be honest, I looked for such an article before I started that one, but could not find it. A search for "Ingrid Loyau-Kennett brought nothing; there was nothing in current events or wikinews. I was surprised that I couldn't find anything, and that's why I started my version. Thank you
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Agreed. There are hundreds of reactions, and it would be impossible to include them all. I think we should limit it to the Queen, major party leaders, the Mayor, bishop of Woolwich, Help for Heroes obviously, and some of the faith organisations. Not sure we need Mr Farage's opinion. After all, why
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may be worth including somewhere, as he explains some of the background to the government's decision to treat the attack as a terrorist incident. His use of the term "of Muslim appearance" also caused offence, and may be worth a mention if others have reported on the reaction.
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I haven't actually added the text of the London-titled article as it seems to me that doing so would be largely redundant but of course the original editor of that page can edit this article if they feel some valuable content was lost due to this
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Okey even assuming no-one had at some point in time taken a picture of the location with an appropriate commons licence, the road is now open again so if a south London based Wikipedian feels like a walk can they please take a camera with them?
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Ah I see, "near to" to me sounded like a round the corner and down the road etc. type thing. Still a picture showing the flats and barracks from the cross roads might be good if we can get one as both have been prominent on the news items.
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are not a political party, and have no elected representatives at any level in the United Kingdom. I do not believe that they should be included in the political rection section of this article.
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Someone's messed up the code, resulting in the disappearance of the bottom of the page. I can't pinpoint the problem myself, so thought I'd mention that it needs fixing here. Thanks
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What I meant was an image taken during the incident itself. There are known to be numerous photos and videos taken by members of the public, but a CC license would be needed.--
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The article currently underplays this - it's more than just an EDL protests and attacks on 2 mosques. Perhaps information from this news source might be included...
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Yes but would a picture (with appropriate licence) of the location taken before the incident (if one can be found) be more appropriate than some place nearby?--
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Agreed, as mentioned above. Just not sure which section it should be included in. Political reaction isn't appropriate. Perhaps aftermath. Any other thoughts?
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Agreed prose is better , but we can't nit=pick notability as that would be subjective. I'm adding some others back (but in current format)(
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page should be deleted or made a redirect to this article; the latter seems preferable for the time being so I have performed a redirect.
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I think we need to mention them in some context as some of their members held a demonstration in Woolwich later in the evening.
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since that's a catch-all for what's not political. Also, several of the groups that oppose the EDL are listed there.
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ok, have added stuff on EDL and Nick Griffin, which have been incorporated into various parts of the article.
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Some reactions are more than mere expressions of opinion. They've become events worthy of news coverage
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I think that's pretty much what I'm saying now I have been educated about the geography of Woolwich. --
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in the mean time? after all it does have slightly more relevance to the story than the local boozer. --
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Thanks, I'll give it a go. Someone's converted the sections into prose now and they look a lot better.
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Although you've only mentioned the controversy not why the ogovt used the term. Add that too.
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Perhaps hes a new user and needs to be informed. But bear that this need to change to NPOV.(
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article. One is a not uncommon behavioural disorder, the other is a terrorist attack.
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The pub and the tower block on Artillery Place near to where the attack took place
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Fine but done remove it altogether. I hope the current incarnation is acceptable?
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/23/attacks-muslims-spike-woolwich-attack
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It is on the roadside outside Elliston House, which is the tower block in
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I copied the single news article from telegraph.co.uk which was cited at
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This page also serves as a redirect.t And hence Bio data is acceptable.
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article makes as much sense as linking the September 11 attacks to the
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when the latter is also a party leader, and deputy prime minister?
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for discovering my version and making the appropriate adjustment.
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and potentially worrying. This deserves coverage in the article.
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Why not use the least offensive screenshot from MSM available?
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can't wait for the sake of this page to get it off the news/.
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This was unilaterally moved and then the names were changes.
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Linking the deliberate running down of the soldier to the
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According to Google Maps, the attack took place around
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But I agree it shouldn't be under political reaction.
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Although you don't need MPs to be a political party.(
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Talk:Murder of Lee Rigby
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English Defence League
Gareth E Kegg
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21:17, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Lihaas
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21:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Paul MacDermott
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11:40, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Beheading in the name of Islam
Beheading in the name of Islam
Rembrandt Peale
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01:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
2013 London attack
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2013 London attack
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