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defeating NicolĆ”s MassĆŗ in the final. Djokovic won his second career title at the Open de Moselle in Metz, and moved into the top 20 for the first time in his career. Djokovic also reached his first career Masters quarterfinal at Madrid during the indoor hardcourt season. In 2006, Djokovic won the decisive win on 9 April, against Great Britain by defeating Greg Rusedski in four sets in the fourth match, giving his team an insurmountable 3ā€“1 lead in their best-of-five series, thus keeping Yugoslavia in the Group One Euro/African Zone of Davis Cup. -Provide citations
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sources like Rod Laver, Andre Agassi, FoxSports, BBC, Tim Henman, US Open website, and Andy Murray. I couldn't check one of the sources because it was a book I don't own. That's a lot of backing. Do I agree with it... maybe not... there's a lot of tennis history in its 130 years and a lot of intangibles that go into making a player great. But the sources added easily back the inclusion no matter what I might think.
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from 2003 to 2006. As we use the name of the birthplace at the time of birth, in the infobox should write the names of all the countries for which he was competed. That's the way it is done on many other pages. Serbia and Montenegro did not change name and flag, Serbia is a new and different country.
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He reached the Top 40 in the world singles rankings due to his first quarter-final appearance at a grand slam, coming at the French Open, and also by reaching the fourth round at Wimbledon. Three weeks after Wimbledon, he won his maiden ATP title at the Dutch Open in Amersfoort without losing a set,
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We have to be careful here on article length. Knowledge (XXG) likes 60k or less per article and certainly 100k or less. Things to shorten include: In popular culture, Investments (trivial), Sponsorships, 2012, 2010 (a lot), 2009 (a lot), and 2008. Let's get this well below the 100k threshold before
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Since this may impact all biographies, including tennis bios, I thought it might be important. Good or bad this article on Novak Djokovic may be forced to move to Novak Đoković with no mention of the spelling Novak Djokovic allowed. Hey, that may be the preference here, and that's cool if so, but I
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I'm not sure how it works with all others. In a citizenship change, yes. But Serbia became the legal successor of the union after the breakup, while Montenegro had to re-apply for membership in all international organizations. You're probably correct but do others also fall under this same type of
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The sentence in question reads "He is considered by many to be one of the greatest tennis players of all time." Notice "one" of the greatest, not the greatest. I just checked source "a" which leads to 10 sources... 9 of which provide info on Djokovic being one of the greatest players ever. That's
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I am saying this for the n-th time: please stop the play of words. Djokovic is *not considered* one of the best by anyone other than Cash. Your sources in do not support your falsification of info and is vandalism. Knowledge (XXG) administrators: please stop Fyunck from vandalizing the Djokovic
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Interesting... I read the same sources and they all say he is one of the greatest players. And the page already says "He is considered by many". Do you have trouble with English? No player written about anywhere is the greatest... it is all opinion...even with Federer, Nadal, Sampras Laver and
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FEAR - TOTAL BULLSHIT, Vanja Ā“s father is half Italian half croat, but his mother is a Serb and he grew up in Serbia. DjokovićĀ“s mother was born in Croatia but she is a Serbian and he is very proud of his origin. And bye the way Franjo is not pure Croatian name, that name has origin in lot of
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In the tennis career tab and 2008 sub-tab, you have mentioned "At the Australian Open, Djokovic reached his second consecutive Grand Slam final without dropping a set, including a victory over three-time defending champion Roger Federer in the semifinals." but Roger Federer was just two time
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Can someone in Knowledge (XXG) please ask this person (see post below) to stop vandalizing? Djokovic is not considered one of the best except by Cash. None, I repeat, none of your references in except for Cash consider him one of the best. Stop falsifying results and stop the vandalism.
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Is this really necessary? I do not consider it a rivalry. Djokovic has beaten Ferrer in almost any match of significance, just because they've met 15 times doesn't mean there has to be a section on it. On top of that its poorly written and referenced. The article is already too long without
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Then please put in the webpage that he is not one of the best, that he is only considered as one of the best. I looked at all of your sources and none of them, except for Cash, say he is one of the best. Stop the vandalism and stop semi-locking the page. You are introducing lies.
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Serbia inherited the state union Serbia and Montenegro, practically these were two separate states, Serbia is the only country for which he played Novak Djokovic. Montenegro had its own institutions and the tennis association. Novak competed only for
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Vanja Udovicic's real name is Franjo (pure croatian name), he changed it because of fear, like Dijana's don't want to say she is Croat. But she is. However, she can feel she is Serbian but that will not mean Novak doesn't have croatian origin.
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Only 2 out of 10 sources consider Djokovic to be one of the greatest. Sounds like Knowledge (XXG) is subscribing to misuse of sources and vandalism. Strange that no one is is bothering to read the sources before they post.
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It was only Tennis Federation of Serbia during 2003-2006, not Montenegro. Later Montenegro maybe have own, please stop vandalize this page with your political agenda. It is clear that the only country is competing Novak is
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Looks like you have not taken the time to read. Read (and understand) each source. Only 2 of 10 are valid. I can't believe you are vandalizing and spreading false info on Knowledge (XXG). So much for Knowledge (XXG).
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countries ( IĀ“m from Slovenia and IĀ“ve got 2 friends calling that name but they have both Slovenian origin). But if you want to count someones blood cells why donĀ“t you do that with Goran IvaniÅ”ević and Dražen Petrović
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And that is only represented Serbia, not the state union. Montenegro had its own tennis federation, competed only for Serbia, where he was born. State union Serbia and Montenegro does not have tennis federation, they
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Discussion is not over and the problem has not been solved. I don't vandalize this page! Novak played for Serbia and Montenegro from 2003 to 2006 in Davis Cup, Grand Slams and ATP Tour. It is fact. This is evidence:
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None of your sources say that he is the best. Your play on words for "considered the best" and "is the best" is vandalism. None of your sources in say that they consider him the best other than Cash.
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Novak may have been the first to win three consecutive Australian Open titles, but Federer won in 2004, 2006 and 2007 (non-consecutively). It still counts as three-time defending champion for Federer.
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I thought I should mention the ongoing discussions going on at WP:TENNIS; we are discussing how career statistics list should be modelled, it would be nice if any of you would participate in it. --
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Do you know to read men? If you know, you will see that all references are in line with statement, evereything what are you doing is vandalism, please stop and did not remove valid references.--
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Sorry for the delay, but after going through the article after a couple of times, I am failing it.I believe it has the potential to become a GA, but now it has serious reference related issues.
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a player must be in the top three, but to make a stand-alone page it must receive significant press for years. Those happen a couple times per decade. Ferrer-Djokovic looks to be nothing imho.
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He has reached 6th consecutive hard court grand slam final (since 2010 Us Open) This is a joint record with ivan Lendl from 1982-1987 US Open (australian open weren't on hard courts_
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It is far off from GA requirements. There are dead links, choppiness, unreferenced statements, etc. I think we should wait until the tour is over to work relaxed on it. Regards.--
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Why aren't the footnotes: "^ The final took 5 hours, 53 minutes to complete. ^ The match took 4 hours, 3 minutes to complete." implemented into the article where they belong?--
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Why are there articles, all about tennis players, that have their names written in original, yet Novak's name (specifically surname) is written phonetically in English?
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Serbia is not the only country for which he played. Novak played for Serbia and Montenegro from 2003 to 2006 in Davis Cup, Grand Slams and ATP Tour. For example:
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Well, that is a possibility but Knowledge (XXG) continues to distribute inconsistency by listing both Nadal and Djokovic as No. 1. You don't care I assume...
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An ongoing RfC on name spellings could affect this article's title and lead in the future. Regardless of feelings please comment if interested on whether
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This is not true. There was only one state, and at all competitions sportpersons competed under one flag. Alongside Novak's name is stated only "SCG" or
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an administrator tags it or a non-tennis editor whacks it down arbitrarily. Remember that each year can have its own article and 2007ā€“2010 may need it.
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We read, and Fyunck(click) read, all references are in line with statement. What is problem? This is vandalism what are you doing and please stop.--
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Though I am not all against "novak djokovic" page, that page should exist and redirect to a proper page....the oposite of what is now the case.
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Yes, it is true. They were separate from 2003, and Serbia is only the legal successor of the FR Yugoslavia/S.U. Serbia and Montenegro.--
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Also he speaks that speaker who mistakenly called him Croat he said "He has hurted me too a lot, but didn't want to make scandals".
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This section needs to be updated. The 11-8 win count includes both Wimbledon 2013 and 2012 Olympics, so Murray is 2-0 on grass...
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Nothing of his run to the semi-finals of Wimbledon and subsequent defeat by eventual champion Federer? That's hugely out of place.
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Rosewall. You've been arguing this with many editors and vandalizing the page till I recently jumped in. Knock it off please.
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If you read, are you prepared to go through each source and talk about their validity? Otherwise, you are vandalizing.
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defending champion and actually Novak became the first man in 2013 to win three back to back Australian Open tites.
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was responsible only for clubs and competisions in Montenegro. It became a member of ITF in 2006. and
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It isnt. Rivlary becomes "offical" when player is in top 3 on ATP list. Ferrer hasnt made it yet. --
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In terms of record,he is only the third player to win three consecutive Autralian open titles (<
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Well, then you'd better not have him and Nadal be No. 1 unless you are a Nole fan. Get real.
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Serbia became the legal successor of the union, it's ok, but still it is a different state. --
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Ok, I understand, Djokovic is Serbian and can not have good article on english. But you have
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webpage. Unlock the Djokovic Knowledge (XXG) page so that the info on it can be corrected.
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RfC on name spellings could affect this article's title and lead in the future - comments?
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Because people have gotten too tangled up in Knowledge (XXG)'s bureaucracy and forget to
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http://www.theage.com.au/sport/tennis/djokovic-piles-pain-on-murray-20130127-2dfgw.html
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article looks better. I wrote it there. For example, longer titles, not just years. --
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Djokovic briefly considered plans to move from Serbia to play for Britain-Why?
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made its debut in Davis Cup in 2007. Serbia became the legal successor of
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Djokovic began playing tennis at the age of four-Please give a reference
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Edit request on 6 October 2013 - novak djokovic is no. 2 in the world
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thought it should at least be mentioned. Whatever your view it's at:
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Same problem here also.It lacks citations especially 4rth paragraph.
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Novak about Kosovo, his roots from Kosovo and Serb patriotism
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I think this is the most appropriate solution for infobox:
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please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --
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Maybe, but needs a lot of fix. In Finnish Knowledge (XXG)
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Yeah, because my reply makes me by default a fanatic and
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alternate English spellings should be banned or kept
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46.188.252.196
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13:57, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
2.28.173.34
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23:21, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
RFC on Alternate names
Fyunck(click)
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22:54, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Zoupan
20:35, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
WhiteWriter
14:42, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Novak Đoković
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