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Perhaps the same editor believes, on the back of the unreferenced and unchallenged information in this article, that 'Normal School' means the same on Mars or
Jupiter or the Andromeda Galaxy as it does, apparently, in the Good Ol' U S Of A, Yessirree. Presumably, anyone who claimed it doesn't would
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A, presumably well-intentioned but rather ignorant, Knowledge (XXG) editor reverted my change because it was not 'referenced'. However, the same editor apparently saw no need for a reference to support the implicit implication of the converse - an implication much more in need of verification if it
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Education sector in schools and universities for many years, but any ordinary citizen would verify the change I made as easily. However finding a 'source' for it might prove as difficult as finding a source for many statements that are so widely known that they rarely warrant
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Anyone living in the UK would confirm the voracity of my change. That it is unknown to a US editor is illustrative of the variability of quality of
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Schools in each region or State of the United Stated. I don't think that will add to the article, either, and I propose to remove the paragraphs of this sort that have accumulated already. Comments?
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I would extend this toward those from abroad, that interest in this type of educational topic from regions beyond the U.S.A. are also part of this project on a global basis. Intend to multi-lingual through Meta-Babel, and improve projects on other
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Frankly this rant adds little to the article. Americans know that the term has little meaning to those who have no analagous history of institutions. So, yes the article should have some US centric information as it directly relates to the US use of the
388:"Teachers college" and "normal school" are synonyms; some schools use one term and other schools use the other term. There is no difference in the concept, therefore the one article should discuss all schools that prepare students to become teachers.
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Nevertheless, the 'follow our script if you don't now any better (and even if you do)' approach of
Knowledge (XXG) provides the perfect platform for ignorant 'editors' to exercise 'power' within their little dominions.
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If it weren't so sad, it would be laughable that some
Americans (of which I believe that only about 25% have ventured outside their own country), feel that anything they read in an American source is de facto correct.
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Catchecisms. I haven't been able to find out much more on him.
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