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Can you explain what you mean by "more formal wording"? Crash is a perfectly acceptable term for the incidents contained in the section, and probably the more correct one. Please see the MOS discussion and recent writing on the use of the word "crash" vs "accident." Unless a source in the article is
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Thanks for your response, I can see the reference to powerplant now and I can also see how I missed it in the Specification section. I expected to find some mention of them in the Sesign section and visually scanned that section (on the mobile view), found nothing and then searched the article for
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From what I've observed, aircraft article names generally use the prime contractor at the time of design/production, designation, and sometimes the official name. The principle B-2 team consisted of Northrop, Boeing, Hughes, and Vought, and the aircraft was built from 1987 to 2000. While Northrop
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Grumman was formed in 1994 following Northrop's acquisition of Grumman, the bulk of the design work and the first few aircraft were built before the acquisition occurred. Wouldn't it make sense for Northrop to be in the article title instead of Northrop Grumman? See
1286:"The total program cost projected through 2004 was US$ 44.75 billion" - Is there a reason 2004 is particularly notable? Also this section could use some graphs about projected vs actual, over time, procurement vs maintenance, maybe you have some additional ideas? 557: 355: 573: 359: 1034:, it is listed as being capable of officially 18,000kg payload and estimated 23,000 kg max payload. Simultaneously, it is said to be capable of carrying 2 GBU 57s, each being 14,000 Kg. I dont know if this would be OR or can fall under 224: 541: 351: 1518:
Several of the extension contracts such as DMS-M do not name which private companies were partnered with. If this info is available I would presume it was notable given the attention to private partners in other
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I would consider combining the "Opposition" and "Program costs and procurement" sub sections. The story may be more illuminating if the dates for the information in these two sections are side by side.
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Does the Northrop lobbying play a significant role in the procurement/opposition history? What about a map of where parts were made vs where senators voted against B2 funding?
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This article says "Powerplant: 4 × General Electric F118-GE-100 non-afterburning turbofans, 17,300 lbf (77 kN) thrust each", and links to the
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the word ‘engine’, again finding nothing. It does feel like something of an omission and maybe some more obvious mention could be made?
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At first glance I do not see you was a significant contributor to this article. Can you clarify if you meet the nomination criteria
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Why does this article apparently contain no detail of the plane’s engines? This information appears to be given at
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Oh hello. I may not meet the criteria after hearing this but I will check soon to confirm thankyou.
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directly using the word "accident" we should be using the word "crash" with rare exceptions.
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https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we-do/air/b-2-stealth-bomber/b-2-technical-details/
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which I agree has too many too close phrasing. Also this does not appear to be
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My apologies for bringing this to your talk page instead of here initially.
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https://www.cjr.org/language_corner/associated-press-collision.php
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article. So there is a whole article about the engines. --
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A fact from this article was featured on Knowledge (XXG)'s
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I'll open a discussion there. Hopeful to hear your input.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1120417/
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