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Bold is good, good indeed. While I thought the image was justifiable, it seems others shared your concern as well, and I am glad the person who removed them found other images to spruce up the article with. Also, the image of Drake used is definitely the best, since it does convey that spirit so
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In a recent discussion with The Verge, Naughty Dog veteran Josh Scherr revealed that Johnny
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Depends on what you mean by chronological order? By release, this list is already in chronological order, Drakes
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I found the concept art too similar to the in-game image used to identify the character. The overuse of two images to show practically the same character twice would not satisy
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