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I think this page could do with more on the history of the National Curriculum and the changes it has been through since its inception. There is one line that refers to how it has expanded in scope but with no real detail and there is no mention at all of the latest revision even though it represents
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The purpose of the National Curriculum was not "to enable league tables and inform parental choice". The purpose was to ensure that a uniform curriculum was taught in every state school across the country. The government of the time came to feel that subjects such as 'Peace Studies', which had grown
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I have overhauled the listings of statutory subjects in the main article here. However, it has a natural bias towards the English national curriculum. I have tried to make comments where appropriate for difference in Wales, but since the two systems seem to be constantly diverging now, I wonder if a
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I must admit that digging further I have realised I was confused by the last argument because corresponding GCSE grades and IGCSE grades are considered equivalent, so why would a pupil want to take a harder exam to achieve the same grade? There is a lot more to this, but most of that would be more
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the National Curriculum, therefore criticism of one applies to the other also--but this fact was not made clear anywhere else on Knowledge (XXG) to my knowledge. The second point is that the IGCSEs are considered tougher (by many including the current gvmt opposition) but cannot be used in state
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In their efforts to stand out from the crowd at UCAS time, to widen horizons or from personal interest, an increasing number of school age students are studying with the Open University, either through its Young Applicants in Schools and Colleges Scheme (YASS) or independently. Most of these
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Obviously the criticism section should be critical, but at the moment it is directly critical, rather than reporting verifiable criticisms. I'm not convinced that the statements are even of the sort that could be verified. Certainly there would be a need to support the claim that IGCSEs are
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I mean, the maths article is very in formative, but not very accessible to school age people and not very informative as to what is taught in school and how maths is taught in schools. I feel the science and citizenship articles are even worse than the maths one in this respect.
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a major shift in attitude (in favour of skills and personalisation and away from increased coverage and prescription), which will take a long time to filter into the curricular provision that is actually seen in schools.
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become a disambiguation page. I propose to make these changes soon, since the discussion of the splitting / merging of various topics here occurred well over a year ago and no conclusive action was taken at the time. --
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students fall into the category of "Gifted & Talented kids" and commence study with the O.U. at KS 4, 5 and 6 and some as early as KS 3. Study is funded through the LSC (changing to local LEAs late 2010). See
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the allowing of state school pupils to take exams unrelated to the National Curriculum would signal admission that the system (National Curriculum, GCSEs, League Tables) does not suit the most gifted students.
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The paragraph contained some valid comments on the effects of education policy, but was not relevant to the National Curriculum. The writer had confused the National Curriculum with school league tables.
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I have no idea what the ticks are supposed to represent. Every cell in the table has a green tick, except that none of the cells in the row for maths have ticks. What information is it meant to convey?
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Thanks for giving a reason, rather than just deleting, but having looked at both the content and the references I feel that this needs more discussion to obtain consensus before being deleted. --
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I have now removed the suggested split notification since it was 12 months since it was suggested and there had been neither discussion nor action taken to implement a split. --
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vandalised this article repeatedly on the 10th December, and nobody involved in warning or blocking them thought to check and undo their other contribs. Undone now.
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Thanks for adding the extra references. However, there are still a couple of statements which I consider to be unverified - and perhaps unverifiable:
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https://web.archive.org/web/20071022040232/http://curriculum.qca.org.uk/subjects/Statutory_requirements_for_the_key_stage_4_curriculum.aspx
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National curriculum should not begin with capital letters - article needs amending, don't have time to right now otherwise I would oblige
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There are plenty of reasons for criticising the National Curriculum, but those reasons do not include the ones stated in this paragraph.
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These are both quite short articles so there is no need to split. Further, there is a big overlap that can be eliminated between
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I hope I have addressed your issues. The first paragraph is merely the statement that for subjects in the NC the GCSE syllabus
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This actually needs a disambiguation page anyway, since other countries such as Australia also have a National Curriculum - see
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separate article might be more appropriate. In which case, is there someone with better knowledge out there who might write it?
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https://web.archive.org/web/20081217135909/http://curriculum.qca.org.uk/key-stages-1-and-2/Values-aims-and-purposes/index.aspx
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sure that would be good, but you're the one with the maths degree and PGCE. You might be the best qualified here to do it.
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up in some local education authorities, were not valid areas for study. It wanted to prevent such subjects being taught.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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I've just been looking through the list of subjects in the NC and following the links to articles for each one.
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I removed the paragraph "Failure and adverse effects of the ‘free market’ objective" for the following reason.
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schools because they do not fulfil the NC requirements. I trust the extra references support this.
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http://curriculum.qca.org.uk/subjects/Statutory_requirements_for_the_key_stage_4_curriculum.aspx
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While some are great an tell you what that part of the NC is supposed to each, others (such as
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Fair enough. I hope that happens quickly, because the article as it stands is just plain wrong.
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since the implementation of the National Curriculum the syllabus is already determined by law.
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20 Dec 2006 I think you need to add 'a modern foreign language'. Dick Hudson
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Would it be possible to have articles linked to there which are maybe called
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The 1988 Act which created the NC never applied to Northern Ireland. Per
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Glad to see the material has been removed. The article is better now.
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relevant to the IGCSE page, not being directly relevant to the NC.
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Now KS 3, 4, 5 and 6 students taking Open University Courses too
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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National Curriculum (England, Wales and Northern Ireland)
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Need to change the list of compulsory subjects at KS3
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SESC Briefing paper: Northern Ireland, December 2017
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So, does anyone object to me removing the paragraph?
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