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human rights organisations aren't enough to describe activities that don't shed a positive light on the IAF and the Indian Government? Especially as this war has seen numerous claims of silencing of journalists and the use of security forces to stop the reporting of information on the ground and to silence dissenting voices, who is seen fit to tell the story of what is happening here? What was Knowledge (XXG)'s policy on covering the ongoing situation in Iraq in the early 2000's? Was the US State Department and pattriotic US news sources the only viable and confirmable sources to be used for sourcing information? What about the situation in Myanmar under the previous junta? These claims in the edit aren't random and presumably the US State Department and Amnesty International are not Naxalite front groups. Every source has its biases, but I just worry that the main source of information (Knowledge (XXG)) for most people who don't have much background or even awareness of this conflict are reading an article that treats this war as a contest between a good and proper state actor who conducts itself with complete propriety and all its claims are to be assumed to be unbiased truths, while anything that even mentions the idea that a state actor waging a decades long war might have human rights abuses as part of its war record is to be disregarded as "unsubstantiated"? Someone who has never heard of Chhatisgarh or the word "Naxalite" is going to read this article and come away with "rebels won't give up, Indian government does its best while never setting a foot out of place, everyone agrees".
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add as a batch as I knew that these were going to be contested claims on a disputed topic. The United Nations Human Rights Council has reported on these issues. If necessary I can link 10 other articles and briefings from world wide human rights agencies and press freedom groups, international farmers rights groups, etc. The US State Department, UK government, and all these NGOs have had problems with bias, misinformation and the US and UK governments are not only complicit but active violators of human rights and have committed straight up war crimes (just highlight here that I understand that no source, especially governments and NGOs, are "neutral" per se). However, none of these have any connection to the non-state actors or local political movements one way or the other so this isn't a matter of static and propaganda. If you want to litigate this or that (this report is from 2006, that one if from 2017, this one is from an NGO, that one from a foreign government), like at what point is information, in a *war-zone*, acceptable and non-contestable (other than what the government press releases say, which are then regurgitated in the Indian press, similar to what happens in most countries who are engaged in internal or external conflicts)?
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is based on a single newspaper line! Also if it is indeed appropriate to write 'num. of supporters' then shouldn't we write India's supporters as "Billions of supporters" ??? So I have fully explained the matter and now the warning any further unverified claims and poetic flights of fancies will be reverted without any explanation (if they are of same nature) and if they persist admins will be informed to ban the vandals.
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opposed to parts of India breaking off and declaring independence. The Naxalites were also prominent in the Punjab region in the 1970s, but were driven out by the rise of the Khalistan movement. Also note that I put a line between the government side and the Khalistan movement. This is to show that the two groups are enemies of one another but are fighting against the same rival movement in this instance.
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The current article largely details the conflict, but I think the sections "Causes" and "Sustainment of Naxal movement" could be spun off into the new article as they describe the groups behind the movement. The new article would have room for expansion to describe the specific military and political
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Salwa Judum was a government sponsored group, but why are the caste militias in the same section as the government in the infobox? That seems to imply that the caste militias were supporting the government. I gave the sources a cursory look but couldn't verify it and as far as I'm aware, that is not
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The forces section which compares strength of both govt. and insurgents contained figure which can be termed 'bogus' at their best e.g. it showed naxal strength as 10000-20000 insurgents and "hundreds of thousands of supporters".Seriously,how on the earth can any one verify something like this which
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From 1974 to 1995, there were some incidents and insurgency in Bangladesh from Maoist sections but Govt. took initiatives to decrease their popularity and fund raising.Moreover, Communism never had the appeal in Bangladesh. Now-a-days,Maoism is only an ideology which is considered pretty unrealistic
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I am a long timer IP with no registered account. Over the years, I have worked on numerous articles. I arrived on this article, by chance, to add details of roads and other infra being developed in this area (as "state response" to the insurgency). I noticed this article had several issues, which I
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At what point do any claims in a war-zone become accepted? Some how a bunch of information from the state actor engaged in this war, the Indian governmet (and news orgs sympathetic to the government and who parrot the governments statements) are accepted as uncontested fact, yet worldwide prominent
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I have read some battle articles and the naxalites seems to be expert fighters in jungle warfare unless the information regarding Indian losses are exaggereted. Still, But how this could be? To lose over 75 men while inflicting 8 dead its a very bad ratio for Indian Paramilitary forces. Unless they
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The description stated that these are unsubstantiated claims and also, "what countries". The countries referred to were the United States (where the State Department and Justice Department have both released numerous briefings on these subjects) and the UK government, I was compilling the links to
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You clearly understand that Amnesty and HRW have both had a very chequered and disreputable history and they are no doubt biased in some manner. The sentence you added into the article not only amalgamated the two dubious and widely criticized sources but also categorized them into 'international
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Indians are trying to capture naxalites, not kill 'em. The army has been trying to take 'em alive thanks to stupid Human Rights people who say that the army shouldn't kill them. But the article hasn't listed how many have been taken alive as of yet, about 36 in 2012 alone. Can someone add sourced
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Here is a source that a quick google books search turned up. It describes how Naxalism and Sikh Nationalism worked well together. It also says that communists were prominent in the 60s and early 70s and that they were followed by, not driven out by Sikh Nationalism. It says also that ex-Naxalites
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In the article on the Naxalite-Maoist insurgency the word "affected" is used about areas where naxalites are active. It is not objective language as it suggests that they are a sickness that the government is curing these areas from. The lack of background also paints a skewed picture as it seems
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I do not understand the language here and elsewhere- if people are fighting against corruption and injustice and especially for land rights and decent wages why has the government never tried to address these and why is Knowledge (XXG) painting them as thugs? Either paint both sides as thugs and
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page and was unable to find any reference to the search terms 'maoist', 'marxist', 'naxalite', etc. Seeing as the Khalistan movement wants independence and is a far-right movement, and the Naxalite movement is left-wing wants India as a whole to become a Maoist state and would instinctively be
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It's only alleged of LTTE played any role in this, they were given weapons (allegedly) by the SL government in order to ride out the IPKF in the 90s. Also too many far-right non suspected organizations such as the Khalistan Movement put into the "support" section for Naxalites.
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There is no reference to the Communist Party of Bangladesh, or Bangladesh for that matter, in this article aside from at top right. Please verify the claim, with a citation, that either of these are involved in the on-going conflict or they will be removed.
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Moreover, what Amnesty or HRW believe to be innocent 'Human rights defenders' and 'peace activists' may not be seen as such by other sources. Therefore, when adding such content it becomes important to make it abundantly clear that it is
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The Naxalites have full situational awareness, while the Indian paramilitary forces are both poorly trained and rarely leave their bases. The statistics come from government sources so it's unlikely they would exaggerate their own
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forces have a seperation line between them to show that while they had mutual enmity for the USA and their allies, they themselves had conflict between them and very frequently fought between one another.
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of torture. All the other sources you cited in your edit also follow a similar pattern, with one being a mere press release. These are statements/recommendations, not accusations by either Amnesty of HRW.
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Why is the khalistan movement listed as a belligerent on the government side? Historically this seems inaccurate because Naxalites were supporting the Sikh activists during
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criminals or explain each side accurately. Fighting for one's land on one Knowledge (XXG) page is seen as just and yet the exact same fight here is painted as extremism
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None of this is to say that these accusations should not be included, they should, but their inclusion is subject to better sourcing and NPOV sentence framing.
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in 2010. I would like to revisit this discussion because I think the Naxal ideology is a distinct topic that is notable enough to warrant a separate article.
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but without much detail. I can also find sources on topics such as Naxalite literature, which would be too tangential for an article about the conflict.
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like maoists have come out of nowhere and started killing people. Readers may not agree with the motivations but might want to hear them at least. --
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to this article and its parent category. Also, I have removed the category labeling the insurgency terrorism. That is a misapplication. __
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Low level is cited since 2006. With 1,000+ deaths in 2010 can we still regard it as low level?--
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The same number 10 years after!! As much as 1,100 dead in 2010 alone! Who are they kidding?--
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