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It's interesting you describe Mojo as a "tabloid source", as I had always been led to believe that it was a responsible journal with good editorial control (and hence a "high quality source" as described above). This may lead to further potential problems in other articles that cite it - not least
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Martin - we can't prove that "The singist" is PH, but since I've directly told Phil Smart (co-author of the book and maintainer of vandergraafgenerator.co.uk) about this article (regarding getting a good free image of Nic), and since this article appears right at the top of a search, I'm quite
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