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Forbes, is around $ 1 billion, and his ENRC - of which the Kazakhstani government is a part-owner - has annual revenues of about $ 4 billion. Kazakhstan's annual GDP is about $ 168 billion, so the figures don't add up. Nazabayev and his family do have strong personal links to Kazakhstani businessmen, and themselves control large swathes of the Kazakhstani economy, but let's please not imply that Nazarbayev is some sort of puppet to Jewish oligarchs. That sounds too much like
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While we may agree with you on the merits of the awards, they are properly cited and are of interest to many reading the article. I'm not sure if you tried to delete the sourced material or not, since that would be vandalism and quickly reverted, because the section is still there. The proper avenue
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First of all if you want me to participate you should Ping me. Secondly, for every op-ed Washington post article written by a newborn PHD recipient who conflates a dictatorship and authoritarian autocratic regime, there is a dozen research papers which are much more nuanced and dont characterise the
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I think that the statement that Mashkevich "controls one-fourth of Kazakhstan's economy" is wrong and misleading. Despite the three footnote links to this statement, only one contains this claim, and it is an unsubstantiated statement from an online newsletter. Mashkevich's net worth, according to
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It is a crime to (and the exact wording escapes me at the moment) humiliate or degrade the first President (ie Nazarbayev) or his family. Usually it's only enforced in cases of slander, perjury or false accusations. I've never heard of any personal attacks being litigated in this way. Many people
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Not sure about the validity of the description of political opposition belonging here. Would an article on George Bush include that during his presidency Howard Dean became head of the Democratic Party? Or predictions of who will become the next President? I think any section on criticism should
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Predictions on the next president certainly have a place here. Bush has little to no real control over who becomes the next US president, but Nazarbayev is certain to hand-pick the next leader of Kazakhstan (unless a coup occurs, of course). I didn't really see any mention of predictions in the
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Tengriism, like hinduism, can be monotheistic, or polytheistic, if you look on the tengriism page on wikipedia, several sources have said Nazarbayev thinks Tengriism is the "natural" religion of the turkic people. and on the kazakhs page, their variant of islam has many tengriist influences.
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I am not going to get involved in content editing here, because I don't know enough about the subject. But he is referred to as the honorary chairman in multiple places, including both of the sources cited in the text. You will need considerable evidence if you want to claim otherwise. --
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I'm afraid that doesn't answer the question. It is possible to claim that a particular religion is the "natural" (or "native", "original", "indigenous", or whatever) religion of a people—even one's own people—without being an adherent of that religion oneself. Please provide a
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An editor is changing "Nazarbayev ruled a dictatorship in Kazakhstan" into "Some say he ruled a dictatorship". That is not acceptable. There is no dispute whatsoever in RS that NN ruled a dictatorship. By presenting it as a contested active dispute, we'd be misleading readers.
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The puffed up "Honours and awards" section is pathetic and ridiculous. He has these awards because he's an oligarch, not because of any personal merit, and they're of zero interest to readers of the article. This is like giving a detailed list in the
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This article reads like it was written by his propaganda staff. There is frequent reference to him as democratically elected despite the fact that most human rights organizations see him as a moderately repressive dictator. See for example,
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How can he be both a Tengriist and a Muslim? To be a Tengriist means that he acknowledges the existence of Tengri and possibly other pagan Turkic gods, which directly conflicts with Tauhid. The claim doesn't seem to be referenced, either.
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here it says its life time. He does actually have kind of authority in the council, so it's not much symbolic. But there's no confirmation that he's no more a chairman, thus I don't think the end term is something we can confirm.
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based on reporting from Orda. Her name is Asel Isabayeva, she was a former Miss Kazakhstan and he married her during a religious ceremony and had two sons. Not sure how to add this, any help would be appreciated.
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Oh, I see. You are referring to the end date in the infobox. I can't help you with that, but you could start a discussion here, ping the editor(s) who added the end date, and ask them what they base it on. --
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I deleted this line: "This is the first case in history since the discovery of nuclear arms that a nation has willingly done so." It is not true. South Africa dismantled its nuclear arsenal in 1989.
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There is no distinction between a dictatorship and an authoritarian regime. They are one and the same. If you want to say he ruled an authoritarian regime, I have nothing against that.
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Why does the same name appear as both "Ábish" and "Äbish" in the "Early life and career" section of this article? Please choose one or the other (the one that is most proper).
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I hear that in Kazakhstan it is illegal to ctritice Nazarbayev's height or Toupee? Is this true and can anyone give a citable source so I can add it to the article.--
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which explicitly and unambiguously states that Nazarbayev is a Tengrist, and which is more recent than the 2003 source we already have which claims he is a Muslim. —
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Hello again, I'm actually saying that someone did put an end date. So I'm trying to say that there's no indication that he's no longer the honorary chairman.
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still lists him as the honorary chairman (and Erdogan as the chairman). Does that organization have a website or anything, where this could be confirmed? --
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he has said several times its the natural religion of the turkic people, and he is listed among the people in the tengriist movemnt on the wiki page
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DOES wear a toupee and IS short and dumpy. There it is illegal to mention the president's height and lack of hair, among other very strange things.
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This Jew is not belong to his family. He just a businessman who lives in Israel and have second citizenship in Kazakhstan. President is not Jews.
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I'm going to go request that this article be semi-protected to keep out all these anonymous friends of Borat who like to post nonsense here!!
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I have deleted two sentences which seem to be gratuitous in a section which is about the personal life of the article subject, Nazarbayev:
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has only a similar brief mention; in the absence of an article on Aliyev, the more expanded description currently in
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For what it's worth, that section appears to have been created by a PR firm hired by the Kazakh government. See the
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Such an ignorant comment! Juz is an ancestor branch occupying specific territories, nothing to do with Jews.
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I would like to see more family background on Mr. Nazarbayev. Most importantly, to which Juz does he belong?
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Since the elections were not free and fair, why are we delineating that they took place and he won them?
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That's evidence enough for me to change the userbox to "to present" and use this as a reference. --
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According to the Kazakh Constitution no one can have more passport apart from his kazakh one!!!
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Don't get me wrong, Nazarbayev isn't a good Muslim at all, but still this just seems... odd.
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There's no indication that he's no more the honorary chairman. Could you please fix this
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I don't believe he wears a toupee and he's not tall but he's not very short either. --
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How does that prove that Nazarbayez himself is a Tengrist? —
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Kazakhstan GDP is 107 billions but not 168 billions!!!!
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Why is the lead listing all the elections he "won"?
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