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Look, I've used this exact format on at least a dozen FAs, it's perfectly acceptable at FA level, which means it's ok for the much lower GA criteria. I'm not going to change it. The caption would not be useful as alt text (especially the references to colors of the map) and should be best left as is.
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I've used the "click for a larger view" bit for this map in probably a dozen FAs, none of which have raised complaint (apart from a rather odd claim that it somehow violated copyright on a public domain map). It was actually suggested in one of the various FAs/ACRs. The map shows the movements of the
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On to the citation comment above, I prefer to be as precise as possible to help anyone who might want to look it up. A 3-page citation isn't sufficient unless you're using material from all three pages in a single sentence, IMO.
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Sorry, but I'm not convinced with this. The thumbnails are specifically made clickable to provide access to the full resolution image. Regarding the image's importance: You might consider amending the image with
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It was specifically requested in some FAC or ACR, I'm not going to go through the trouble of digging through the 40-50 of them to find it. As for the map itself, the scale is far too small to include individual
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Could you please draw some more or less recent examples? I actually looked through several random recent FAs and GAs and found no example. Neither did your recent nomination I passed. โ€”
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s movements, the caption should be probably rewritten to help the reader figure things out. The current caption then should be moved to "alt" attribute of the image (per
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contains the relevant policy; though it doesn't prohibit such caption elements, I still have a feeling that this part of a caption should not be there. โ€”
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two fleets, which are impossible to determine from the more focused detail given in the article, and would be useful to readers.
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The question of appropriate usage of the illustration still stands. If it is needed and can't be modified to indicate
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Looks like such illustrations are indeed the regular practice for GAs and FAs on the topic. I dismiss this issue. โ€”
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I'm not putting this on hold as the issues noted are too trivial to expect lengthy editing for addressing them.
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The caption of the only illustration features "click for a larger view" comment which is hardly appropriate.
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The illustration itself doesn't help to understand the role of a ship in a battle. Is it really needed here?
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The article has no issues here, though I would suggest to reduce overlinking. Eg., in the last paragraph of
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I spent some time hunting for any indication of consensus about "click for a larger view" question.
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the three last references can be safely joined, as they address the same range of the pages.
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s movements in order to actually render this image useful. โ€”
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The Italian service could be covered in more detail, though.
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class cruisers participated in the Battle of Jutland.
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