Knowledge

Talk:Somali calendar

Source 📝

353:
the middle: *. jʕħ is moon (again, no vowels in Egyptian spelling prior to Coptic) - ʕ cannot correspond to x in one Somali word and then disappear in the next one, so the first line and the second line in the table cannot be true simultaenously. Tr is neither hour (that would be wnw.t) nor period, but "time". Manta does not exist in Middle Egyptian - mjn is "today" and hrw is day. Neither is night khawo - the common words are grH and wx3, there is a x3wy which is probably what "khawo" is supposed to be, but that transcription is extremely misleading. In short, this table looks deliberately shaped to create the impression of more similarities than are warranted. "these words were the core of calendar language of societies around the world" is a bold statement that would need a ton of referencing (and I would challenge that this just wishful thinking) ... so I do not see a way this paragraph can be repaired in a meaningful way. If you feel strongly otherwise, please provide some reliable sources that check out from a linguistics background. Vague similarities between (parts of) words are not properly sourced historic etymologies.
179: 74: 158: 53: 84: 22: 352:
I removed that section because it has too many issues and is not sourced in any way. Most of the Egyptian words given are not accurate: sun is rʕ with an ayn ʕ - the vowels in the table are made up. "Ra" is the modern Egyptological pronunciation, but Middle Egyptian is probably vocalized with an in
347:
In addition to few other terms, such as month and year, these words were the core of calendar language of ancient societies around the world. On the bases of this shared background, it is highly probable that a common heritage had involved the foundations of the two calendar systems, the Somali and
373:
Removed the table below because the information is simply not accurate - nor is it sourced in any way. Please see the preceding explanations from 2021. If you want to put it back, please consult some reliable sources on the Egyptian language first - by people who can actually read Egyptian and are
374:
not hunting for words in a dictionary to find "cognates" (a common approach by those who want to connect all sorts of modern languages to Egyptian, Sumerian etc. for extra prestige).
503: 130: 498: 140: 518: 508: 229: 219: 106: 195: 513: 97: 58: 348:
the Egyptian. Even with this possibility of common heritage, the Somali calendar appears to have developed indigenously.
33: 186: 163: 39: 480: 358: 21: 194:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
105:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
462: 476: 354: 247:
Somali-Egyptian astronomical cognates (removed due to multiple errors and lack of sources)
178: 157: 73: 52: 89: 492: 401: 79: 484: 362: 102: 191: 417: 15: 190:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 101:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 8: 504:Low-importance WikiProject Somalia articles 152: 47: 376: 250: 154: 49: 19: 378:Somali-Egyptian Astronomical Cognates 7: 499:C-Class WikiProject Somalia articles 184:This article is within the scope of 95:This article is within the scope of 38:It is of interest to the following 14: 177: 156: 82: 72: 51: 20: 224:This article has been rated as 135:This article has been rated as 1: 198:and see a list of open tasks. 115:Knowledge:WikiProject Somalia 109:and see a list of open tasks. 519:Low-importance Time articles 509:WikiProject Somalia articles 363:18:45, 30 October 2021 (UTC) 121:WikiProject Somalia articles 118:Template:WikiProject Somalia 485:15:16, 7 October 2023 (UTC) 535: 230:project's importance scale 204:Knowledge:WikiProject Time 141:project's importance scale 223: 207:Template:WikiProject Time 172: 134: 67: 46: 28:This article is rated 514:C-Class Time articles 436:Waqt/Sa'ah وقت/ساعة 369:And that table again 379: 98:WikiProject Somalia 463:Night (hieroglyph) 450:Nahr/Yawm نهر/يوم 377: 304:Tir'o, waqti,sa'ad 34:content assessment 474: 473: 345: 344: 244: 243: 240: 239: 236: 235: 151: 150: 147: 146: 526: 380: 251: 212: 211: 208: 205: 202: 187:WikiProject Time 181: 174: 173: 168: 160: 153: 123: 122: 119: 116: 113: 92: 87: 86: 85: 76: 69: 68: 63: 55: 48: 31: 25: 24: 16: 534: 533: 529: 528: 527: 525: 524: 523: 489: 488: 397:Qorrah or orrah 371: 341:Night, Tonight 249: 209: 206: 203: 200: 199: 166: 120: 117: 114: 111: 110: 88: 83: 81: 61: 32:on Knowledge's 29: 12: 11: 5: 532: 530: 522: 521: 516: 511: 506: 501: 491: 490: 472: 471: 468: 465: 459: 455: 454: 451: 448: 445: 441: 440: 437: 434: 431: 427: 426: 423: 420: 415: 411: 410: 407: 404: 398: 394: 393: 390: 387: 384: 370: 367: 366: 365: 343: 342: 339: 336: 333: 329: 328: 325: 322: 319: 315: 314: 311: 308: 305: 301: 300: 297: 294: 291: 287: 286: 283: 280: 277: 273: 272: 267: 262: 257: 248: 245: 242: 241: 238: 237: 234: 233: 226:Low-importance 222: 216: 215: 213: 196:the discussion 182: 170: 169: 167:Low‑importance 161: 149: 148: 145: 144: 137:Low-importance 133: 127: 126: 124: 107:the discussion 94: 93: 90:Somalia portal 77: 65: 64: 62:Low‑importance 56: 44: 43: 37: 26: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 531: 520: 517: 515: 512: 510: 507: 505: 502: 500: 497: 496: 494: 487: 486: 482: 478: 469: 466: 464: 460: 458:Cawo or Caawa 457: 456: 452: 449: 446: 443: 442: 438: 435: 432: 429: 428: 424: 421: 419: 416: 413: 412: 408: 405: 403: 399: 396: 395: 391: 388: 385: 382: 381: 375: 368: 364: 360: 356: 351: 350: 349: 340: 337: 334: 332:Cawo or Caawa 331: 330: 326: 323: 320: 317: 316: 313:Hour, period 312: 310:Waqti, Sa'aah 309: 306: 303: 302: 298: 295: 292: 289: 288: 284: 281: 278: 276:Qorrax/Qorrah 275: 274: 271: 268: 266: 263: 261: 258: 256: 253: 252: 246: 231: 227: 221: 218: 217: 214: 210:Time articles 197: 193: 189: 188: 183: 180: 176: 175: 171: 165: 162: 159: 155: 142: 138: 132: 129: 128: 125: 108: 104: 100: 99: 91: 80: 78: 75: 71: 70: 66: 60: 57: 54: 50: 45: 41: 35: 27: 23: 18: 17: 475: 444:Manta, Malin 372: 346: 318:Manta, Malin 269: 264: 259: 254: 225: 185: 136: 96: 40:WikiProjects 327:Today, Day 324:Nahar, Yawm 290:Dayax/Dayah 493:Categories 477:MikuChan39 467:Layl ليلة 453:Today/Day 439:Time/Hour 422:Qamar قمر 355:MikuChan39 406:Shamsشمس 392:English 386:Egyptian 260:Egyptian 389:Arabic 270:English 228:on the 139:on the 112:Somalia 103:Somalia 59:Somalia 30:C-class 470:Night 461:kh-uḫ 414:Dayah 383:Somali 265:Arabic 255:Somali 36:scale. 447:Manta 425:Moon 335:Khawo 321:Manta 299:Moon 296:Qamar 293:Ya'ah 282:Shams 481:talk 433:Ter 430:Jer 409:Sun 359:talk 338:Layl 285:Sun 279:Ra'a 201:Time 192:Time 164:Time 418:Iah 400:Ra’ 307:Ter 220:Low 131:Low 495:: 483:) 361:) 479:( 402:¹ 357:( 232:. 143:. 42::

Index


content assessment
WikiProjects
WikiProject icon
Somalia
WikiProject icon
Somalia portal
WikiProject Somalia
Somalia
the discussion
Low
project's importance scale
WikiProject icon
Time
WikiProject icon
WikiProject Time
Time
the discussion
Low
project's importance scale
MikuChan39
talk
18:45, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
¹
Iah
Night (hieroglyph)
MikuChan39
talk
15:16, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Categories

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.