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I am certain, having watched the design of most of the US space program from childhood in a family with a top level project engineer, that all of these craft were named after gods and not planets. I want to see a very credible source for Saturn 5 was named after the planet. see: Zeus, Nike, Apollo,
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Dont bother, I tried google again without the typo, and it appears that it is a derogatory term. Labelling people with derogatory terms and dismissing them as irrelevant is a definite form of incivility. However you seem to refer to yourself with a similar lack of respect, so it is not clear what
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I have found articles that contain legit plans for Saturn V resuability. I have added these links to the First stage section, but they are from discussions on
Collect Space. I have lost the article to the Brown reusability proposal but I downloaded it as a PDF before I lost the discussion. These
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