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What you mean to say is, "I, the author, think she's racist and my opinion should count as a fact, and I heard some Nazis listened to her once so that proves it. Oh, and here are a few out-of-context quotes that prove she's part of an evil, secret, Nazi conspiracy to make white people value their own
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I just wanted to take a second to point out what a bunch of anti-white hypocrites the writers of this article are. The VERY FIRST thing you say about this artist is "She's a white nationalist." Really? Does she identify herself as that? Funny you couldn't find a citation for her saying that. The
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Secondly, the reason a google search returns little is because you are not searching correctly. Of course merely searching the word "Saga" in Google will return very little. Try instead, to search "Saga "Symphony of Sorrow"" or "Saga "White Power"" on Google and you will certainly find more.
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I removed the "Holocaust denier" category tag. If there is a source to indicate its a valid category, than that source should be listed. Otherwise, it appears to be erroneous. She can be involved in white power/nationalism without being a holocaust denier.
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I don't see the POV issue. Clearly she is pro-white and proud of it; this seems to be pretty clearly racist and controversial. If there were some more pro Saga references that could be cited, we could probably present a more pro Saga article.
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I just had my edit which was to change the term "Neo-Nazi" to "White Nationalist" backed out by some editor, who sent me a nice little note, I guess. Saga identifies herself as a White Nationalist. The term "neo-Nazi" is a scare term.
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This issue of Resistance Magazine has an interview with Saga. I have been unable to get my hands on a copy of this issue. If anyone can find any information on the article, message me on wikipedia. Your help is greatly appreciated.
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Pathetic, really. It's quite sickening to see the level of control one certain group with one certain ideology have asserted, including all sorts of weird thought-police like messages.
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Let me guess, that doesn't warrant immediately classifying him in HIS article as a "black nationalist, anti-white racist" in the tiny, tiny, double-standard-bearing minds of you pin heads!
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I'm sure many anarchists who are now in prison for crimes against the system have albums from Rage Against The Machine in their ownership, but is irrelevant to their crimes and behavior.
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I will improve on the article, but will not associate my improvments with my wikipedia account. In other words, I wish to remain anonymous using only my IP address for identification.
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Yeah right. Pro-white is racism? I guess MLK day, black history month, black pride itself is racism then. No wonder you can't see the POV issue with that kind of perspective, lol.
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What does that have to do with anything besides the fact that you personally think she should be gassed for holding an opinion that differs from yours?
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Nazis...? What does this article have to do with National Socialists? I don't believe Saga has ever identified herself as a National Socialist.
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Does this woman not have a full name, date and place of birth, education, previous employment, family etc? This article is light-weight!
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If you want to save this article from deletion, I would cite some sources pretty quickly. It is already on the chopping block. --
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Many white nationalist and neo-nazi publications have covered Saga's music. I would consider that a notable sub-culture. -
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Saga has been the subject of many works independent of her and her publisher, including the Discovery Times interview.
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Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles?
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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This article is written far too much in an anti-Saga tone. I believe a more neutral position should be taken.
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I think there should be some mention of Anders Breivik listing her song lyrics as part of his manifesto.
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article goes on to say "She's racist. She's racist. Nazis like her. She's racist. Oh, and she's racist."
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Aren't we supposed to have NPOV in these articles? But that seems to only apply in some cases.
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The link to the SPLC article does not appear to be working. Anyone have a working one?
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Dictionary? Or propaganda tool? What does it look like to you?
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Let me quote lyrics from Ice Cube's lovely song "Cave bitch":
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