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What is the deal with whether or not Saif al-Islam is sought by the ICC to stand trial? It seems difficult to find a clear ICC 'wanted' list. Has he been indicted? Is Libya in default of its obligations by not handing him over? If a person had information about his whereabouts is this information the
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We need an update with regard to the status of his PhD. Given the embarrassment caused to the LSE by its financial links to the Gadaffis, you would think they would go ahead and revoke his PhD over the plagiarism that has been demonstrated, so as to distance themselves from him and cling to whatever
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You didn't Understand what i meant, By Providing the Citation I wanted to show that Muammar is a part of his name, thus only calling him Saif Muammar- as it is the case localy- would be correct, the reason syllable Gaddafi was added, is because it's the name of the foundation . SaiF Al-Islam Muammar
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In the education section, following "and a PhD from London School of Economics in 2008, awarded for a thesis entitled "The Role of civil society in the democratisation of global governance institutions: from 'soft power' to collective decision-making?"" please add "Evidence has since come to light
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This was said not to a congressional aide, but during an interview with a western news organisation after the execution of Saddam Hussein and when Gaddafi was considered "an important ally" and "a peacemaker in Africa". There was the full interview on YouTube a couple of years ago, but I've been
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I guess one of the main problems is that Saif al-Islam Gaddafi is quite a prominent figure in the west whereas Saif al-Arab Gaddafi (who has actually been reported dead) is not as well known. I agree that people are going to keep mistakenly making this edit as a result.
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ICC would be interested in? If he turned up in another country would that country be required to hand him over to the ICC? It seems inconceivable that he has just slipped out of prison quietly and that's the end of the matter.
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shreds of academic integrity they have left at that institution. The article says that pressure has been put on the LSE, but there is nothing about the outcome of this. Could anyone who knows update the article?
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It was said that he was recently released due to a general amnesty. Can someone confirm this and then add it to the article? So far only the Figaro reported it and I do not speak french so I can not verify it.
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I've actually heard another NTC representative stating today that it was a tactic to know where he is. I lost track and didn't write the time and name. Just waiting to see if any media repeats the statement.
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But this citation gives his name as "Saif Al-Islam Muammar Gaddafi", which means that the "Gaddafi" part of his name has been omitted. Saif's name is being corrected accordingly.---
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Saif al-Arab is reported dead; Saif al-Islam is not. Let's assume that there'll be a bunch of mistaken edits unless there's a disambiguation added at the top of the page.
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Thank you for that info and the link to the news report. There is a bit more in the article on this topic now, including a reference to the ICC's statement on the matter.
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The word 'extemporaneous' in the first sentence of the "2011 Libyan protests" section should be deleted, or at least taken in quotes. As can be seen in this video -
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The BBC are reporting that it is the sixth son (born 1982) and not this one, the second one, who has died in a NATO attack. Confusingly that are both called Saif.
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unable to find it now. The interviewer was female, but I cannot recall which organisation she belonged to. Think it was the BBC. It made very interesting viewing.
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He hasn't been captured by rebel forces, and has appeared greeting Gaddafi loyalists and by journalists held by the govenrment in the Rixo Hotel in Tripoli.
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and Please Justify your omitting of the "Dr." from his name, and Changing it to Gaddafi instead of Al-Gaddafi. In Allah We Trust 02:31, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
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He may have been in custody and then escaped, as Muhammed is reported to have done. This is speculation I'm hearing on Al Jazeera Live. Nothing citable.
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This is not an applicable method to find out anything Mezigue. People can ignore postcards; or they may never be delivered successfully etc...
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Most of the text of this section is a testimonial about the 1986 bombing of Libya and has nothing to do with the subject of that section.--
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Agreed, as it is, the following sentence after that quote seems like a non-sequitor. That section needs to be re-written.
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Another possibiity could be that some sources were lying about the incident in the first place. Who really knows?
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This is incomprehensible. It says "Having lost the case" when no "case" has ever been mentioned in the article.
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where he blamed the civil war on tribal factions and Islamists acting on their own agendas, drunken and drugged.
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Is there any evidence he's still alive? He hasn't been seen at all since he was captured. (
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This is all we have on Saif al-Islam??? I'm adding an External link - a really good one.
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At his capture Muammar Gaddafi was wearing a wig. Only part of his hair was his own.
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asserts he has a Masters in Pol Philosophy from LSE. Do we have any ref on this? (
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It is very strange that his mother is not mentioned. Who is she? Is she unknown?
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Also, I don't know if the exact time the speech began is all that important.
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The Libyan militia claim the ICC did not request them to hand him over:
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Mohammed is bald too, so how come the Colonel has a full head of hair? (
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As given on his personal website and the official Libyan News Agency,
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