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reverted four times. Additionally, it is peculiarly captioned for a photo of a very specific couple. The clothing is mentioned in the article, but not in your caption. While inclusion of images of traditional dress are nice, the image hardly depicts that clothing (only from the chest up). A preferable image exists on the page for the Chatta and Mundu. You've also been inserting the image in a location somewhat irrelevant to what it depicts; if we weren't already so full-up on illustrations in that article, you'd want to put it directly by the passage that mentions it. Thanks for reaching out, but I recommend you heed the gathered consensus against that image on the page. ~
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Hey
Pbritti, I just uploaded this image since it contains the traditional dress of the st thomas syrian christians chatta and mundu which is mentioned in the wikipedia article.I'm a person belonging to this community of St.Thomas Christians.Kindly do consider these images to be kept on the page.Thank
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Visscher's Letters. The account is from an Italian traveler. I think travelers may have information on the conflicts of the Malabar before the portuguese. Maybe the St. Thomas Community does not have a detailed account or that much of the history is still in Malayalam and not in English. We could
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Thanks for reaching out, I'm going to move this conversation to the talk page of the article per standard procedure, but wanted to respond to you here quickly. Three other editors disagree with the inclusion of that image on the grounds that it is excessive, and your insertion of the image has been
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Christianity (Syriac: ܡܫܝܚܝܘܬܐ ܣܘܪܝܝܬܐ / mšiḥāiūṯā suryāiṯā) encompasses the multiple Churches of Eastern Christianity whose services tend to feature liturgical use of ancient Syriac, a dialect of Middle Aramaic that emerged in Edessa in the early 1st century AD, and is closely related to
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Europeans who traveled by land and sea routes to India. Maybe because it’s not credible enough. We can cite it as the accounts of the traveler. It may or may not be real. The info I see that’s needed is documentation on
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Malankara Church is a church of the Saint Thomas Christians of Kerala, India, with particular emphasis on the part of the community that joined Archdeacon Mar Thoma in swearing to resist the authority of the Portuguese Padroado in 1653. This faction soon entered into a relationship with the
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That is indeed something new. I will also be active in finding more sourced materials regarding the conflict between the ancient jews and muslims. I have heard about a tradition of the knanaya community, a Jewish
Christian community which had migrated to Southern parts of Kerala from Cranganore
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Tropics: The Catholic Frontier in India (16th–17th centuries), p. 99 and note. University of
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I also agree with
Pbritti that it is not useful to readers, as I do not think it is relevant enough to Saint Thomas Christians as an encyclopedia topic. Since it doesn't clearly illustrate the clothes, it is decorative, and therefore inappropriate.
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But wouldn't that be contradictory for the common perception that Vasco Da Gama was the first
European to land in the Malabar coast??? Seems that it is well sourced then can be added to the article.
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6)The dutch colonial people in India first called the Saint Thomas Christians as "Syrian Christians' 7) I contest this 6th point. They were called Suriyani Christianis for centuries all together.
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and according to the above source there was a war between Jews and Muslims which the Christians and local princes fought in. Here is another source
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