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names that are also descriptive, so saying that it can be called a descriptive term does not negate it being a proper name; descriptive terms can also be proper names per very well established usage. The quote about relying on sources is immediately followed by saying that there are exceptions, proper names being one of them. I'm taking this page off my watchlist so respond how you'd like, but I have given my opinion on the matter and have found attempts to change my mind unpersuasive, though I am aware that by weight of votes the consensus seems to disagree, and that's fine, I'm not going to spend more time on whether it should be "T" or "t". -
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Scopes Trial. That is a proper name for the article, and because of that Knowledge (XXG) convention supports capitalizing it. Despite what is claimed below, it need not be an "official name" to be a proper name. Scopes Trial is no less a proper name than Buckingham Palace is; just because palace is a
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IMHO the trial was not about the time-lines. The law only mentioned "any theory that denies the Story of the Divine Creation of man as taught in the Bible, and to teach instead that man has descended from a lower order of animals." Bryan, in particular, was not a Young Earth Creationist. And what the
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What I was saying about being descriptive was addressing the concerns that others had that it was a descriptive term and that this somehow makes it not a proper name; it is no more a descriptive term than Jonas Brothers, White House, United Kingdom, The Game of the Century, other very clearly proper
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says that "Darrow volunteered his service" (pg. 73) and that "several of members feared that Darrow's militant agnosticism would imperil Scopes' defense" (pg. 73). As made clear on page 100, the ACLU "did not want Darrow anywhere near ." The ACLU had instead been considering former presidential
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notes that "such names are frequently a source of conflict" so I think that (1) its not abnormal to disagree on this and following that (2) calling my rationale bizarre just because you disagree with it is hardly constructive. I'm not going to spend more time arguing over "T" vs "t" and I'm simply
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My experience has been that a simple "up" or "down" vote is often not enough to establish a consensus of opinion. Sometimes there is a question of how good the reasons. About "sarcasm", there was no intent on my part to be sarcastic, but I realize that I am sometimes inept in conveying my tone, so
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of the proper name is a common noun doesn't make it a descriptive non-proper name any more than White House, United Kingdom, or Jonas Brothers would; these heads are all common nouns that are still part of a whole that constitutes a proper name, even though they could technically be described as
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we typically capitalize proper names. This is a proper name. It being a proper name makes it an exception to what you're quoting per the wording in the MoS, and that's why I am opposing this RM. I am not going to engage in this conversation further because it's not productive, nor am I going to
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Good points, and in accordance have removed the timelines. The Scopes trial was specifically about teaching human evolution, and they're anachronistic as young earth creationism wasn't significant enough at the time to be a factor. The nearest thing to a relevant point in the text is a passing
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There is no suggestion that we can create an exception? We don't need to create an exception, because it's already there. What you're quoting is very specifically and immediately followed by "There are exceptions for specific cases discussed below." I'd say that's more than a suggestion.
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change my position, because the rationale the supporting comments give is not one that I agree with when viewed through the lens of the relevant MoS. I'm taking this page off my watchlist, so respond how you feel appropriate, but I will not address this RM further. -
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science of the day had to say about anything was not an issue in the trial. Nor the anti-science of the day, either. I suggest that a 21th century time-line would be an anachronism, anyway, as well as a distraction from what the real issues of trial were? IMHO.
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The citation for "Darrow originally declined, fearing his presence would create a circus atmosphere, but eventually realized that the trial would be a circus with or without him, and agreed to lend his services to the defense" appears to be
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Thank you for your comments - for my part, it's *entirely* ok to continue with this discussion - all the comments have been excellent imo - other comments - and/or - points of view - are *always* welcome of course - in any case - Enjoy! :)
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A) Wasn't aware that anything other than a yes or no was required in the replies, so the sarcasm is unnecessary. B) I think that before we can declare this settled it needs to be allowed to percolate for more than a few hours.
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requires in terms of a majority of sources is irrelevant; a proper name is a listed exception to that rule, and what I am saying is that Scopes Trial is a proper name for this topic, which means per the same
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description does not mean it is not part of the proper name and Scopes Trial is no more a descriptive name than Buckingham Palace or United States is, even though United States is not its official name. -
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says how we decide, and it's based on consistent capitalization in independent relialble sources. With so many sources using lowercase, the assertion that it's a proper name just doesn't hold water.
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I'm not 100% certain about this. The name most often used is Scopes Trial, so in this case the trial is part of the title, not explaining what the Scopes thing is. (If that makes sense.)
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nominees in order to parallel Bryan's political career - Darrow had made the offer to one of the attorneys, John Neal, who accepted it without consulting Scopes or the ACLU.
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says proper names are capitalized and are specifically listed on that MoS page as an exception to "consistent capitalization in independent reliable sources". That the
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That's a nonsense reason. My 53rd birthday will be this month. That doesn't make it SMcCandlish's 53rd Birthday, despite there being no other 53rd birthday of mine.
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because it's a proper name, and you disagree that it is a proper name; I don't think either one of us is going to convince the other so let's leave it at that. -
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The timelines are inappropriate for this article. Had the IP editor not been abusive and simply brought up this talk, would have been done with already.
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If we keep the current language, I think it is necessary to cite sources for it. If sources cannot be found, then we should rewrite this paragraph.
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seems to be that the timelines are *not ok* for the article - yes - agreed - no problem whatsoever - Thanks again for the replies - and - Enjoy! :)
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a proper name, particularly when this is uncertain, as in this case. To resolve this, we need to revert to the primary guidance of the lead.
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Remove the scare quotes from "modern science" in the lede. It's not attributed to a source. It's unnecessary, ambiguous, and editorializing.
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that WP relies on usage in sources to determine what we capitalise. As such, we are left to determine the matter by usage in source per
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reference "to the creation science movement of the 1960s". There may be a case for finding sources which relate the trial to contemporary
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The NGram linked above doesn't appear to support the assertion that most don't capitalize it; it looks about even to me. I am aware of
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says to uppercase terms only if they are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of reliable sources. It looks like the
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The RM closer makes those decisions. Either the page title will be changed or either it won't. Nothing more, nothing less.
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proper names. Ngram evidence for Jonas Brothers, White House and United Kingdom bears this out. However, there are many
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It is technically in the "Courthouse" section, but good catch as it wasn't anywhere else. I have added it to the lead.
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There are descriptive noun phrases that are consistently capitalised and treated as proper names but these are not
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until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
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one) out of several common descriptive terms for this case. It does have a proper name, which is
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The Ngram above shows majority lowercase until 2019. In 2019, it is, as you say, about even. But
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capitalisation in sources. Per the ngram evidence, it does not meet this threshold.
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supports the capitalized Scopes Trial. It is not a trial called Scopes, it is
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Some sources do capitalize it, for sure. But most don't. Have you looked at
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isn't even capitalized in a majority of sources, much less a substantial one.
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is a descriptive, category noun made specific by the attributive proper noun
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of sources. That would obviously include sources published before 2019. And
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Exactly so. And WP does not capitalize for prominence as some styles do.
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for how Knowledge (XXG) choose in such situations? We choose lowercase.
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Yes, we hear you saying it's a proper name. That doesn't make it so.
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is listed below and says that proper names are typically capitalized.
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in that it attempts to cover patterns, process and theory rather than
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Actually, it looks like Scopes trial is the most commonly used name:
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a noun that may be preceded by an article or other limiting modifier
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by Edward Larson, but nothing in that book implies such. In fact,
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nor any other part of MOS:CAPS create an exception in this case.
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Perhaps I missed it, but don't see the start date of the trial.
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I agree with TomS TDotO -- time lines are not appropriate here.
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seems the common name and per ngrams is regularly uppercased.
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Citation for Darrow's Reluctance (Dayton, Tennessee Section)
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could technically be described as "just a descriptive term"
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and this is much less clear from the evidence. Neither
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A timeline of the actual case might be of interest.
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capitalization is primarily needed for proper names
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