Knowledge

Talk:Sejm of Congress Poland/GA1

Source 📝

826: 806: 746: 688: 645: 604: 527: 502: 420: 367: 318: 188: 42: 884:
That this government in general is referred to as "Congress Poland" or "the Congress Kingdom." The article lede says as much, but if you skip over that, you miss out. Using the term 'sejm' both for the whole group and for the lower house specifically is confusing, too. I'm going to recommend later
430:
section contains a spurious sentence about voting rights that fails to mention franchise was offered only to landowners and lease-holders. Jews were also forbidden from voting. Jedruch specifies on p. 226 "The Electoral Ordinance" the exact qualifications. I don't speak or read Polish, so I can
221:
I will rewrite that sentence, but would you have any sources for the other issues? Those topics were not mentioned in the literature I used, which I think does represent some rather significant works on that subject.
994:
My apologies I am not able to address all of the issues raised, but I simply no longer have access to those books (I used them a year ago at a library on a different continent I am not going back to anytime soon).
857:
Need to be more clear that all the members of the Sejm were called "deputies." Typically, for someone to be a deputy implies that they are only a junior member to someone else, and this in not the case here.
47: 907:
It seems key to explain that the reign of Alexander I ended and Czar Nicholas changed the functioning of the body. Everything this Sejm did was in response to the Russian overlords.
199:
It's confusing and in some cases factually wrong. (No mention is made of franchise offered only to landowners and lease-holders. Jews were forbidden from voting, etc.)
126: 414: 80: 201:
Also, the sentence about how often the Sejm met: "Bardach gives the dates of 1818, 1820, 1823 and 1830; Jędruch lists 1825 instead of 1823" needs to be rewritten.
452:
If you have access to Jedruch, could you add the relevant fact and cite? This is not mentioned in Bardach, IIRC (to which I no longer have access, neither). --
122: 70: 554:
This was not mentioned as an issue in the sources, IIRC. I do agree this is of some relevance, I am not sure it is needed for GA-level comprehensiveness. --
52: 107: 736: 312: 99: 1013:
In deference to your contributions, I'm devising how I can make these changes myself, rather than fail the GA review. It'll be on me from here.
156: 831:
I'm traveling out of town at the moment in remote areas with limited Internet access, should be able to address above in a few days. --
166: 533:
In fact, there should be more mention of the policy differences between Alexander I and Nicholas I and their impact on the Congress.
75: 496: 947: 115: 17: 751:
Only one image and it's far beyond copyright. It would be nice to have more and larger pictures but not necessary.
740: 796: 292: 1041: 1021: 962: 915: 779: 759: 728: 701: 658: 617: 579: 541: 477: 439: 380: 331: 267: 209: 150: 732: 353: 92: 861:
Not sure how to clarify this; it is pretty common in other articles I am familiar with, including GAs like
682: 1035: 1015: 956: 909: 773: 753: 695: 652: 611: 573: 535: 471: 433: 374: 325: 261: 203: 146: 1001: 980: 933: 894: 871: 837: 560: 458: 398: 228: 720: 598: 361: 300: 521: 256: 170: 1048: 1028: 1007: 986: 969: 939: 922: 900: 877: 843: 786: 766: 708: 665: 624: 586: 566: 548: 484: 464: 446: 404: 387: 338: 274: 234: 216: 160: 635: 296: 800: 308: 304: 771:
I added another image: the title page of a public domain publication from the Sejm.
997: 976: 929: 890: 867: 833: 556: 454: 394: 224: 1033:
I've made all the changes I believe are necessary and I'm ready to promote this.
862: 571:
When in doubt, write it out. I think the current version takes care of it.
323:
The list of notable members could use some cleaning up, but it's passable.
885:
that this article be moved to a better title for those not in the know.
392:
I no longer have access to his work. If you do, could you do so? --
693:
The last flurry of movement came in March of 2012 with the DYK.
372:
I would recommend double-checking the page numbers for Jedruch.
134: 103: 853:Some points that make this article confusing: 8: 255:I moved some of my criticism to 2B IAW with 795:B. Images are provided if possible and are 30: 61: 33: 998:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 977:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 930:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 891:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 868:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 834:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 557:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 455:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 395:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 225:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 7: 642:Fair representation without bias: 24: 824: 804: 744: 686: 643: 602: 525: 500: 431:only AGF on the Polish sources. 418: 413:B. Citation to reliable sources 365: 316: 186: 946:I would also recommend adding 1: 362:appropriate reference section 948:Template:Infobox legislature 825: 805: 745: 687: 644: 603: 526: 501: 419: 366: 317: 187: 18:Talk:Sejm of Congress Poland 1067: 469:I've since re-written it. 1049:02:14, 23 July 2013 (UTC) 1029:04:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC) 1008:10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 987:10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 970:01:05, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 940:10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 927:Replied to this above. -- 923:21:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 901:10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 878:10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 844:18:34, 13 July 2013 (UTC) 787:02:14, 23 July 2013 (UTC) 767:03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 737:valid fair use rationales 724:to illustrate the topic? 709:03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 666:03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 625:03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 587:02:14, 23 July 2013 (UTC) 567:10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 549:03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 485:02:14, 23 July 2013 (UTC) 465:10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 447:21:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 405:10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC) 388:03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 339:03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 275:21:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 235:18:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 217:03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC) 197:needs to be re-written. 193:The entire section about 161:03:50, 12 July 2013 (UTC) 609:Definetly not too long. 428:Composition and duration 195:Composition and duration 799:to the topic, and have 180:reasonably well written 650:No POV evident to me. 515:broad in its coverage 950:, although it's not 497:No original research 349:factually accurate 185:A. Prose quality: 801:suitable captions 739:are provided for 89: 88: 1058: 1047: 1044: 1038: 1027: 1024: 1018: 1004: 983: 968: 965: 959: 936: 921: 918: 912: 897: 874: 840: 828: 827: 808: 807: 785: 782: 776: 765: 762: 756: 748: 747: 741:non-free content 733:copyright status 707: 704: 698: 690: 689: 664: 661: 655: 647: 646: 623: 620: 614: 606: 605: 585: 582: 576: 563: 547: 544: 538: 529: 528: 504: 503: 483: 480: 474: 461: 445: 442: 436: 422: 421: 401: 386: 383: 377: 369: 368: 337: 334: 328: 320: 319: 273: 270: 264: 231: 215: 212: 206: 190: 189: 139: 130: 111: 43:Copyvio detector 31: 1066: 1065: 1061: 1060: 1059: 1057: 1056: 1055: 1042: 1036: 1034: 1022: 1016: 1014: 1006: 1002: 985: 981: 963: 957: 955: 938: 934: 916: 910: 908: 899: 895: 876: 872: 842: 838: 780: 774: 772: 760: 754: 752: 702: 696: 694: 659: 653: 651: 618: 612: 610: 580: 574: 572: 565: 561: 542: 536: 534: 478: 472: 470: 463: 459: 440: 434: 432: 415:where necessary 403: 399: 381: 375: 373: 332: 326: 324: 295:compliance for 268: 262: 260: 233: 229: 210: 204: 202: 120: 97: 91: 85: 57: 29: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 1064: 1062: 1054: 1053: 1052: 1051: 1037:Chris Troutman 1017:Chris Troutman 996: 992: 991: 990: 989: 975: 958:Chris Troutman 944: 943: 942: 928: 911:Chris Troutman 905: 904: 903: 889: 882: 881: 880: 866: 851: 850: 849: 848: 847: 846: 832: 823:Pass or Fail: 815: 814: 813: 812: 811: 793: 792: 791: 790: 789: 775:Chris Troutman 755:Chris Troutman 727:A. Images are 715: 714: 713: 712: 711: 697:Chris Troutman 672: 671: 670: 669: 668: 654:Chris Troutman 631: 630: 629: 628: 627: 613:Chris Troutman 595: 594: 593: 592: 591: 590: 589: 575:Chris Troutman 555: 537:Chris Troutman 511: 510: 509: 508: 507: 493: 492: 491: 490: 489: 488: 487: 473:Chris Troutman 453: 435:Chris Troutman 411: 410: 409: 408: 407: 393: 376:Chris Troutman 345: 344: 343: 342: 341: 327:Chris Troutman 305:words to watch 286: 285: 284: 283: 282: 281: 280: 279: 278: 277: 263:Chris Troutman 244: 243: 242: 241: 240: 239: 238: 237: 223: 205:Chris Troutman 147:Chris troutman 140: 87: 86: 84: 83: 78: 73: 67: 64: 63: 59: 58: 56: 55: 53:External links 50: 45: 39: 36: 35: 28: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 1063: 1050: 1045: 1039: 1032: 1031: 1030: 1025: 1019: 1012: 1011: 1010: 1009: 1005: 999: 988: 984: 978: 973: 972: 971: 966: 960: 953: 949: 945: 941: 937: 931: 926: 925: 924: 919: 913: 906: 902: 898: 892: 887: 886: 883: 879: 875: 869: 864: 860: 859: 856: 855: 854: 845: 841: 835: 830: 829: 822: 821: 819: 816: 810: 809: 802: 798: 794: 788: 783: 777: 770: 769: 768: 763: 757: 750: 749: 742: 738: 734: 730: 726: 725: 723: 722: 716: 710: 705: 699: 692: 691: 684: 680: 679: 677: 673: 667: 662: 656: 649: 648: 641: 640: 638: 637: 632: 626: 621: 615: 608: 607: 600: 596: 588: 583: 577: 570: 569: 568: 564: 558: 553: 552: 551: 550: 545: 539: 531: 530: 523: 522:Major aspects 519: 518: 516: 512: 506: 505: 498: 494: 486: 481: 475: 468: 467: 466: 462: 456: 451: 450: 449: 448: 443: 437: 429: 424: 423: 416: 412: 406: 402: 396: 391: 390: 389: 384: 378: 371: 370: 363: 359: 358: 356: 355: 350: 346: 340: 335: 329: 322: 321: 314: 310: 306: 302: 298: 294: 290: 289: 288: 287: 276: 271: 265: 258: 254: 253: 252: 251: 250: 249: 248: 247: 246: 245: 236: 232: 226: 220: 219: 218: 213: 207: 200: 196: 192: 191: 184: 183: 181: 177: 176: 175: 174: 172: 169:review – see 168: 163: 162: 158: 155: 152: 148: 145: 141: 138: 137: 133: 128: 124: 119: 118: 114: 109: 105: 101: 96: 95: 82: 79: 77: 74: 72: 69: 68: 66: 65: 60: 54: 51: 49: 46: 44: 41: 40: 38: 37: 32: 26: 19: 993: 951: 852: 817: 718: 675: 634: 532: 514: 427: 425: 352: 348: 198: 194: 179: 173:for criteria 165: 164: 153: 143: 142: 135: 131: 117:Article talk 116: 112: 93: 90: 81:Instructions 954:necessary. 731:with their 104:visual edit 1003:reply here 982:reply here 935:reply here 896:reply here 873:reply here 863:Great Sejm 839:reply here 562:reply here 460:reply here 400:reply here 360:A. Has an 354:verifiable 230:reply here 48:Authorship 34:GA toolbox 888:Ditto. -- 683:edit wars 144:Reviewer: 71:Templates 62:Reviewing 27:GA Review 974:Added.-- 797:relevant 719:contain 717:Does it 257:WP:WIAGA 171:WP:WIAGA 157:contribs 76:Criteria 818:Overall 685:, etc: 636:neutral 599:Focused 309:fiction 127:history 108:history 94:Article 952:per se 735:, and 729:tagged 721:images 676:stable 674:Is it 633:Is it 513:Is it 347:Is it 311:, and 301:layout 178:Is it 313:lists 136:Watch 16:< 1043:talk 1023:talk 964:talk 917:talk 865:. -- 781:talk 761:talk 703:talk 660:talk 619:talk 581:talk 543:talk 479:talk 441:talk 426:The 382:talk 351:and 333:talk 297:lead 269:talk 211:talk 151:talk 123:edit 100:edit 681:No 597:B. 520:A. 495:C. 293:MoS 291:B. 995:-- 820:: 803:: 743:: 678:? 639:? 601:: 524:: 517:? 499:: 417:: 364:: 357:? 315:: 307:, 303:, 299:, 259:. 222:-- 182:? 167:GA 159:) 125:| 106:| 102:| 1046:) 1040:( 1026:) 1020:( 1000:| 979:| 967:) 961:( 932:| 920:) 914:( 893:| 870:| 836:| 784:) 778:( 764:) 758:( 706:) 700:( 663:) 657:( 622:) 616:( 584:) 578:( 559:| 546:) 540:( 482:) 476:( 457:| 444:) 438:( 397:| 385:) 379:( 336:) 330:( 272:) 266:( 227:| 214:) 208:( 154:· 149:( 132:· 129:) 121:( 113:· 110:) 98:(

Index

Talk:Sejm of Congress Poland
Copyvio detector
Authorship
External links
Templates
Criteria
Instructions
Article
edit
visual edit
history
Article talk
edit
history
Watch
Chris troutman
talk
contribs
03:50, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
GA
WP:WIAGA
Chris Troutman
talk
03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus
reply here
18:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
WP:WIAGA
Chris Troutman
talk

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.