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was featured on the main page of Knowledge on 2010-05-12. The hook was "Did you know ... ... that Chinese writer Shi Tiesheng was paralyzed at age 21 while he was a zhiqing?" Interestingly, the article on Shi Tiesheng received 2.2k
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Fewer people care about random writers whose work is mostly lost in translation. It is nice to know what these kids are called... although really there isn't a set term in English yet. —
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when a widely used, precise term is readily available. Also, "of China" is redundant as the term is not used in any other country. Analogies are
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is not an analogy, someone else may want to. After looking in more detail the term used in histories (as opposed to translations of zhiqing) is "
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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is most common now but we should add the other to the infobox if it was notable at the time or is a common alternate name in Chinese.
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is a precise and widely used term. Nobody is going to type "sending urban youth to the countryside" when looking for the article. -
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one "Zhiqing" or the other, too, obviously.) The (more or less) direct translation "Educated Youth" is also quite common. —
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I agree with removing the Y, as would anyone per WP:CAPS, and have done so as non-controversial housekeeping.
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As mentioned above, there are no sent-down youths outside of China, so the "of China" part is redundant. -
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Also, "rusticated youth" is probably a paraphrase from the Chinese "Down to the Countryside Movement" (
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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between
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the best option would be a title that could be understood and was sufficiently precise, such as
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while the zhiqing article (an alias for this article) received more than double the hits, 5.9k.
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like a translation of a Chinese name... or was it just coined from the movement as well (
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
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please do not erase or overly edit, as translation is in progress
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for these people. (The raw number's muddied by all of the people
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The Role of Sent-Down Youth in the Chinese Cultural Revolution
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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where did "sent-down youth" come from? It certainly
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